I don’t care for bacon, it doesn’t have much flavor and is often just used for salt, or fat. I leave it out of almost all recipes that call for it and haven’t missed it yet.

  • @Ledivin@lemmy.world
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    I don’t care for bacon

    That’s fair, everyone has their own tastes

    it doesn’t have much flavor

    Uh… what? 🤨 I think this is just objectively wrong

    • @l_b_iOP
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      -136 months ago

      It doesn’t, it tastes like the artificial smoke that’s added, if that flavor even survives cooking until crispy.

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        196 months ago

        artificial smoke

        Hmmm. So you’re eating low quality bacon and saying it tastes low quality.

        Alright.

      • @Ledivin@lemmy.world
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        76 months ago

        It sounds like you’re just eating bad bacon 🤷‍♂️ splurge on something from a butcher and then get back to us - it really is totally different.

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        46 months ago

        there’s unsmoked bacon out there which very much does not have the taste that you’re describing (I know because I specifically avoid that smokey taste).

    • @l_b_iOP
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      16 months ago

      Apparently all the restaurants are too.

      • @aleph@lemm.ee
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        166 months ago

        Bacon added as a side or in, like, a burger typically is your basic, low quality bacon.

        If you want the good stuff, find a local butcher or supermarket that has a deli counter and you can often find good quality, pre-sliced bacon. If you’re in the US and near a Stater Bros, for example, go check em out.

  • Scrubbles
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    326 months ago

    I like it, when it’s useful. But does anyone remember the 2012ish bacon craze that everyone fucking had. I think that was one of the first marketing over-reactions to an internet meme. Fucking bacon ketchup. Just add salt to my salt please.

    • @l_b_iOP
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      126 months ago

      I remember epic meal time, I think that was winding down in 2012. I think TV chefs are still obsessed with bacon.

      • Neato
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        96 months ago

        epic meal time

        Sauwce. I watched that when they got popular, then fell off, then tried to come back and it had gotten weird.

        • @l_b_iOP
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          46 months ago

          Jack sauwce, bacon strips and bacon strips and bacon strips. bacon weave… It got a little repetitive.

    • Rose Thorne(She/Her)
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      116 months ago

      Bacon gum, bacon soap, I swear I saw bacon scented shampoo once… It was stupid. Like overnight, everyone decided everything needed to be bacon.

      For a moment, I wondered if Sanrio had went nuts and replaced Hello Kitty with a talking slice of bacon.

      • Scrubbles
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        56 months ago

        that’s what it was like, like every marketer around the world said “Oh look, bacon is funny on the internet, let’s make our stuff bacon”. Freaking wild time, and I know most of it went unsold

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          26 months ago

          I like syrup on pancakes, and maple candied bacon can be yummy if it’s not overly sweet. But for some reason I don’t enjoy the maple frosting they put on donuts. It just has a weird artificial flavor to it.

          • @l_b_iOP
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            25 months ago

            Probably because it does have a weir artificial flavor added.

            • themeatbridge
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              25 months ago

              Yeah, that or they use shortening to make it shelf-stable, which always tastes like chemicals to me.

              • @l_b_iOP
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                15 months ago

                Speaking of shelf stable bakery products, I haven’t eaten there in years, but I never felt well after eating subway. I blame the bread.

  • southsamurai
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    176 months ago

    Looking over your comments, you’ve fallen prey to crappy industrial food practices. And it’s hard to avoid tbh. Most of the bacon out in stores doesn’t have much flavor. You have to either research brands to find a good one, or live close enough to where someone makes bacon the right way so you can get out while bypassing the bullshit. Mind you, just because someone is making bacon on their own farm, that’s not a guarantee it’s good, but it’s likely to be better than the crap in most stores.

    Good bacon is very flavorful. Yeah, there’s salt to it, that’s part of making bacon. But you get a lot more than that assuming the person making it stays fairly free when curing. It doesn’t have to be just salt. But smoking rather than using liquid smoke is the real flavor power. Liquid smoke tastes anywhere from just fake and off to outright unpleasant.

    Unfortunately, the ability to be certain of a local producer is long gone. Even butcher’s shops are harder to find in populous cities. And it isn’t like us rural and rural adjacent folks van guarantee access to local goods just because we’re near a farm. Industrial food exists for a reason beyond just profit (though that’s why it’s usually not that good), and keeping a supply chain going means that most farms, even those that are family owned and operated, don’t sell to the public at all, even if they do make some product for themselves.

    Like, the guy I get most of my pork products from is a rarity. And he doesn’t sell openly, you have to know him already, and be aware that he’s not a grocery store. You get what you get, when it’s ready, and not one damn day sooner lol. Same with the cousin that I get beef from.

    • @Servais@dormi.zone
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      46 months ago

      Like, the guy I get most of my pork products from is a rarity. And he doesn’t sell openly, you have to know him already, and be aware that he’s not a grocery store. You get what you get, when it’s ready, and not one damn day sooner lol. Same with the cousin that I get beef from.

      Seems like the best type of people to get food from

      • southsamurai
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        26 months ago

        Man, it really is. There’s drawbacks to living in a semi rural area, but the ease of obtaining fresh foods is nice, albeit not always possible due to needing to know someone to get some foods because it’s more profitable to sell it off in bulk.

        No bullshit, im so spoiled with beef now that it’s absurd. Having access to reasonably priced (essentially at cost) meat that I know how the cattle are fed and treated, and has amazing taste has ruined me for grocery store beef. We don’t even eat beef often, because of a combination of ecological impact and price (even at the family discount, it ain’t cheap).

        Pork products, I can’t say that every product is automatically better than store bought, but anything processed will be unless you pick brands very carefully.

        And don’t get me started on how much better chicken is when the breed isn’t so focused on time to market. I just don’t have a good relationship with the locals that sell chicken lol. So it’s a less frequent thing to have the better meat.

        We have our own eggs now, after having adopted the first chicken last year. Our little marans hen lays almost every day, and they are soooo good. Rich, with a superb white. She’s almost totally free range since our birds are pets, so there’s a distinct shift in flavor from egg to egg sometimes. And that’s a plus, imo. The depth of flavor is amazing compared to caged hens, but it isn’t so strong that you can’t bake delicate things with them too.

        Legit, making friends in a community shared with farmers is always going to benefit you. And, when you treat them like a friend and neighbor, you end up learning more about the foods they raise in conversation, as well as sometimes getting a call for help and doing some work. That’s a good thing as well, imo.

  • @half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world
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    116 months ago

    Agreed, but for a slightly different reason. It’s the curing process that is the star. There’s beef bacon. Tofu bacon.

    When I want something pickled it doesn’t always have to be a cucumber. Picked jalapeno is great. Jardiniere is fucking delicious.

    I’m saying curing makes things salty and crispy, which is awesome when you want it. Just wish it wasn’t always pork.

    • Icalasari
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      We had a local butcher once. I miss them. Turkey bacon, deer jerky…

    • @l_b_iOP
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      I don’t know I’ve had anything other than American “grocery store” bacon. I’ve never found bacon to have much flavor once its cooked until crispy. It tastes like salted nothing. I make a carbonara that has pancetta in it, but other than the texture, even then, I’m not sure how much that adds to that dish with all the other things in it.

        • @MagicShel@programming.dev
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          26 months ago

          It’s a fine line. It should be stiff enough that you can pick it up with a slight bend, but once it is crunchy then it’s just a big bacon bit.

        • @l_b_iOP
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          I think an .LT on good bread with a good tomato is just as good.

  • Nougat
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    Assuming you’re talking about American bacon strips, it depends on the bacon, and it depends on how it’s cooked. Finely sliced and super crispy … ehh, I’m not into that. Give me some nice thick peppered bacon, just at the cusp of becoming crispy.

    I will murder for candied bacon.

    • @l_b_iOP
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      16 months ago

      Yes, American bacon strips. Once you get to candied bacon, you can get that flavor with candied anything, maybe add some smoke or maple syrup. I don’t think I’ve ever had thick bacon of any sort.

      • Nougat
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        You can easily find thick cut bacon at any grocery store. It’s far and away the better choice. If you’ve cooked bacon before, you know it’s a nanosecond between “done” and “overdone,” and you also have to stop cooking it before it’s “done,” because carryover heat will continue to cook it after it’s off the heat.

        … you can get that flavor with candied anything, …

        Oh, my sweet summer child. There’s a restaurant chain in Chicagoland called Lazy Dog. I don’t know where else they are, if anywhere. Go there and get their candied bacon.

  • themeatbridge
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    Salt, fat, yes, but also smoke and sweetness. Complex flavors are contained within.

    Edit to add: Of course everyone has preferences. You don’t have to like bacon, and your feelings are valid. But, if you think that bacon doesn’t have much flavor, can I ask you if you’ve been eating “uncured” bacon? Because “uncured” bacon is an abomination unto the lord. It’s garbage, and worse it’s a lie. “Uncured” bacon is cured with celery juice. It’s fully cured. There’s nothing uncured about it.

    See, nitrates and nitrites are responsible for the curing process. Nitrates turn raw meat into smoky cured meat, and nitrites give it that lovely pinkish-red color. It’s a chemical process that makes meat taste better and last longer.

    Nitrates and nitrites are found in root and leafy vegetables, and kill bacteria. They are also found in wood, but we don’t really eat wood. They can also be produced via a variety of chemical processes that won’t be appetizing at all.

    Cured meats can be bathed in nitrates and nitrites, or they can be smoked. The smoke will provide the nitrates and nitrites, although a lot of “naturally smoked” products have added nitrates and nitrites.

    Both are good for you in small quantities, and bad for you in large quantities. You shouldn’t eat bacon with every meal, but the quantity of nitrates and nitrites in bacon are fine in moderation.

    The amount of nitrates and nitrites used in curing meat is highly regulated. In the US, you cannot call anything “cured” unless it has a specific amount of added nitrates, and the amount of nitrites is limited.

    Except there’s a loophole.

    If the nitrates and nitrites come from a natural source, like celery juice, then they aren’t regulated at all. It could be higher or lower concentrations of each, and there’s no requirement to document how much of each is present in the recipe. And because there are no “added” nitrates or nitrites, it legally cannot be labelled with the word “cured.”

    So bacon manufacturers have figured out that they can market this “uncured” bacon as a healthier alternative to normal bacon. But we don’t know for sure that it is healthier, in fact it might be worse for your health. The only thing we know for sure is that it tastes like celery.

    Now, celery flavor works in a lot of recipes. It’s distinctive and subtle when paired with carrots and onions in a mirepoix. In bacon, however, the celery flavor competes with the salt and the smokiness to make the bacon blander. It’s just bad.

    But the label tests well with shoppers. Who doesn’t want guilt-free bacon? It costs the same (celery juice is just as cheap as manufactured nitrates and nitrites) and it tastes almost like regular bacon. It has all the same fat, calories, and sodium content.

    So Write your Congressperson! Tell them you demand new legislation regarding the labeling of so-called “uncured” bacon. I guarantee that if we got rid of the misleading implication that it is a healthier alternative to bacon, the product would disappear entirely.

    Or don’t. It’s not really that serious.

  • @Nastybutler@lemmy.world
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    66 months ago

    OP has apparently never had Fletchers thick sliced pepper bacon that Costco sells. Bacon is the best meat, and I’ll prove it. It’s the meat you add to other meats to make them better. Filet mignon? Considered the best cut of beef. Wrap it in bacon? Even better. Scallops are among the best seafood meats. Wrap it in bacon? Absolutely delicious.

  • @MikeOToxin@lemmy.world
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    56 months ago

    I started making my own, and I couldn’t disagree with you more. Store bought bacon isn’t good. Butcher or homemade is the way.