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Beat me to it by mere minutes.
Also, fuck Steven “Emotional Abuser” Chowder.
the poster child for all screaming, pants-wetting Momma’s Boys
Is he an ass? The name sounds sort of familiar, but I don’t know who this dude is.
Yes. Yes he is. I didn’t realize that meme was him. Now I’m retroactively pissed.
Damn, I just know the meme. This is why we can’t have nice things.
What a tool
His sole piece of merchandise reads “Socialism Is For F*gs.” Asterisk included.
He claims it says “figs.” Because he’s an idiot, and he thinks you are too.
Jesus christ
Is there a meme generator for this?
We can only hope someone will make one using this, I (like many) hate the guy in the original picture from this post.
I really need to get back into webdev
If you have the skill, you would be the hero we need.
🤔
No, he does not. He doesn’t even deserve to be remembered at all.
Amen
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Theres a good chance most of us wouldn’t be considered worthwhile drones, to be honest.
I would be broken down into nutrients instantly.
Thank you for your sacrifice
Been there.
I believe in you, too!
I’d be OK with being turned into nutrients
Something something circle of life
At least I’d be useful for once ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Still, at least I’d be useful for something
“A remarkable creature. Your design nearly passes as human.”
“…I am human?”
“Ew! well, then you need to drink more water.”
Is that an actual line from the doctor?
It’s from Lower Decks. A simulation of the Borg Queen says this to Boimler while he’s taking a test on a mini-holodeck.
Figures
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The only downside, really, is the retconned-in CEO with all that individuality at the top of the otherwise equal system. When she started blowing up cubes just to flex on her enemies, that was a real
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- physical disability: that might just get you euthanized.
- limited resources: again, I see euthanasia as a possible Borg solution.
- loneliness: ever heard of being lonely in a crowd?
- mental health: again, a malfunctioning drone would likely just get euthanized.
Some of these points assume the Borg we saw outside of Voyager, because Voyager really neutered the Borg in so many ways.
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Loneliness? Literally impossible
This is my sticking point. There’s nothing better than the feeling of being alone in the house, at least for a little while.
Now if it came with a fully customizable virtual world where I could be alone if I wanted to, then I’d be down.
Isn’t that just Unimatrix Zero?
Well if I’m going to have to worry about the borg queen trying to crush Unimatrix Zero, forgettaboudit.
Alternatively: You have no distinctiveness that will augment our own, so we’re going to liquefy you and feed you to the childborgs.
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was that borg policy? every borg individual had some beneficial distinctiveness? I guess I’ll get liquefied then
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If I was accepted as a drone, it’d be fine by me. I’m so tired of worrying about everyday existence in the devolving hellscape of a world we now occupy.
But, if you have a physical disability, they don’t bother assimilating you I thought?
The Earth First faction would totally gaslight everyone about the existence of the Borg.
The Borg?! Ha! Yet another radical leftist Federation boogeyman! I’ll bet credits to navy beans that it’s just an excuse to expand Starfleet and take away your phasers! Wolf 359 was an inside job! But in case you do get infected with nanoprobes be sure to buy my Ivermectin^TM brand purity pills, only 4 bars of Gold Pressed Latinum!
Lol that just made me realize the terrorist group from enterprise was called Terra Prime. Damnit how did I not see it!
Depressingly accurate
Fuck Steven Crowder
I’d rather not
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I would absolutely line up to be assimilated. I’d be guaranteed a job that mattered, I’d always be with family and friends, I’d be part of a group that was always working towards a common goal, and I’d be happy; the borg that are disconnected from the collective are clearly deeply distressed by the experience. Plus, I’d be stronger and more capable as a borg than I can even imagine right now.
As long as people are making the choice to join the collective, why is it anyone else’s business?
That is the gimmick of the borg. Depending on the writer it is half about the horrors of comunism and the other part is about the horror of transhumanism. Both are rad though so hell yeah
For a solid 25+ years, I’ve been saying that the second it’s viable, I would happily replace all of my meat with machine. When you fuck your back up as an organic, congrats, now you get to have pain for the rest of your life. As a cyborg? Just replace the damaged part.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel.
You look like a cut of fuckable meat. Are you?
laughs in socialist furry
Oh no, they’ve come to take away my precious humanity and capitalism, whatever shall I do?
Yeah, right? Sign me up. Free healthcare too
In my headcanon, the Borg eventually reach a truce with the Federation, and over time eventually become full-fledged members of the Federation. That’s CRAZY right?..Is it? I mean, the Federation warred with the Klingons and Romulans, and look how those relationships changed over time.
How about the Borg’s willingness to join? What we’ve been seeing over the years is that the Borg adapt. Their willingness to adapt had been established from their very introduction as a faceless hive-mind. Over the course of the franchise, they’ve experimented with individuality with Locutus, Borg Queens, becoming so infatuated with individuality that they even dispatched 7 of 9 to live amongst Starfleet to investigate directly, and then instead of efficiently assimilating her to gain her knowledge, they choose not to re-assimilate her so that they could ask her about that experience and avoid corrupting that knowledge via assimilation. Why is the Borg so interested? The Borg found that Federation individuality had repeatedly repelled Borg invasions when Borg calculations indicated that they should have won, and even after re-adjusting for past failures, the Borg still found themselves stymied in encounters with Starfleet. The Borg were even saved from total extinction by the ingenuity of individual creativity and a temporary alliance with a Starfleet ship. That is a huge motivator for the Borg to re-assess their approach and look for a new way to adapt to prevent their vulnerability to a similar event in the future.
Would the Federation be open to it? Like I said, they’ve allied with past enemies before. Ex-Borg members of Voyager served with distinction. Borg tech has proven invaluable to Voyager’s return. Most importantly, Borg Drones are not undead zombies! Assimilation is a reversible condition, and that means that instead of hating the Borg for killing their loved ones, the Borg ARE their loved ones. Moreover, Borg assimilation is a weapon of mass diplomacy. Chakotay found that the hive-mind allowed warring alpha-quadrant races to all live in harmony in the Delta Quadrant, and losing access to the hive-mind allowed their old destructive conflicts to creep back in, and ultimately they reinstated a local hive-mind to regain peace. Chakotay joined that hivemind and came away from it with unparalleled understanding and empathy for the other members of the collective, and an overall positive experience, and he disconnected with immediate recovery and no ill-effects!
That is a game-changer, it allows the Starfleet to show up on the door of a new alien race, and those aliens would naturally be cautious, suspicious, mistrustful of the Federation’s intentions. First contact is extremely dangerous. An alliance with the Borg could allow Starfleet to establish first contact by saying, “We come in peace”, assimilating the alien envoy, and then the alien representatives would know that Starfleet truly and honestly means to “come in peace”, casting aside all suspicion of ulterior motives. Starfleet then disconnects the alien envoy from the local hivemind, and then those envoys can go home and sing Starfleet’s virtues to the rest of their race.
So basically kidnapping and brainwashing them into believing we are good?
Yeah, I doubt the Federation would be on board with that. They rather take the difficult route.
All the borg say they prefer borg at what point do we have to just listen to them and admit we are being rascist about it? In several episodes it is shown and being a pleasant experience of I recall correctly.
It’s all Starfleet’s fault, the Federation has expanded too much and has encircled Borg space for decades. Plus the Borg are good for making a multipolar galaxy, we should support them.
I was more talking about the borg themselves reporting being happy but this did bring that weird rascist tone to it that I was talking about.
I can’t recall anyone that was recovered from being a Borg begging to go back. In fact quite the opposite.
It wasn’t like the Nexus where everyone agreed it was better even after the fact.
Seven of nine, Heugh, the kids, I seem to Recall Picard saying it was p nice just not for him. I know everyone reported not liking thr process but the actual state of it has been reported as being mostly pleasant but It has been a while since I seen the episodes.
Yeah, they all speak of “oneness”, but again, no one is falling over themselves to get reassimilated.
Even Hugh accepted death over it.
And that’s taking into account that the nanites literally rewrite their brain to make them feel that way.
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Strong username post combo.
Brainwashing is an orientalist trope so I feel like we are onto something there.
I thought Hugh was depressed about being ripped out of his collective, scared of being infected with a logic virus.
Also Janeway relentlessly misgendered Seven of Nine until it assimilated into her crew
I mean… a transhumanist collective sounds like a better deal than Capitalism
Beam me in, Scotty!
Assimi-milation!
What a wonderful phrase
Assimi-milation!
Ain’t no passing craze
It means no worries
For the rest of your days
It’s our problem-free philosophy
Assimi-milation!
Lemmy is better than Reddit because people here take the time to use the right number of syllables.
And also all the other reasons
I am Excretus of Borg
I don’t want any kind of computer in my body for the simple reason I refuse to have my internal organs run on windows
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GNU/Borg
better but computers in general aren’t very good at things. They’re great if you want to do a lot of calculations really fast but they just don’t have the reliability I look for in an internal organ
also some teenager would hack into me and force me to dance or something
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nice I’ll have to check it out
but they just don’t have the reliability I look for in an internal organ
That’s ok, neither do regular organs.
I highly doubt The Borg are using 21st century Windows or Linux operating systems.
If it means not having to deal with capitalism anymore I’d get in line too tbh.
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Free healthcare
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Free public housing
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No debt
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Spend all your days cruising the galaxy with your buds, looking for more people who want to join the party
Yeah, I’m not clear what’s on this list that I’m not supposed to like.
And everyone shares thoughts instantly so you just know their meme culture is off the charts.
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The Federation doesn’t have capitalism either (well, again this depends on the writer, but Picard was quite clear about it in one episode).
How can I join, pls?
Wait no. You guys aren’t supposed to be excited about it.
Too bad!
Don’t tell me how to live my life
OUR life
I thought that was exactly what you wanted.
I mean… What’s wrong with assimilation other than it being forced on people?
Edit: Seriously. I’d love to see real opinions on the idea of borg assimilation, assuming that it’s not forced. Obviously forcing it is evil, but what about the inherent nature of the process, what it does, and what happens to your mind?
Assimilated drones immediately lose all autonomy, and can never regain it without outside influence (which they will likely be compelled to resist). It’s functionally suicide, except that your body and mind continue to be used for whatever purpose by an entity you have effectively no control over.
I understand joking about the benefits relative to the frequently unpleasant world we live in now, but I have serious concerns about anyone who would rather be a Borg drone than an ordinary 24th century Federation citizen.
I mostly question what the collective is like from the inside. The descriptions we get in the show tend to just say it’s a constant cocophony of voices. To me, that implies the individual minds still exist within it, they just all share a collective voice. But at the same time, they have the queen and they kind of imply the queen directs the hive mind or at least is a manager of some kind. I’m a bit of a singularist, so some aspects of the Borg are just fascinating to me. I am fine with giving up physical autonomy to exist as just a mind in a collection of other minds; but I would still want my voice to matter and help shape the collective.
Perhaps not with the Borg, but I just don’t have fears toward the merging into a collective part. The body horror is scary and really just because it looks painful as hell to be assimilated.
Or perhaps I’m just envious of Picard and Seven who got to experience something most don’t. Even if it was a bad experience… I really gravitate toward experiences that are aren’t real or impossible for me to have. I know I am of the time Picard lived an entire lifetime in his mind because of an alien probe. That would be dope.
The voice of an individual in the collective is roughly equivalent to a vote in a democracy: it’s real and it’s there, but there are so many other votes/minds involved that the chances of yours having any influence at are are negligible.
I value democracy and community, but I’m not willing to put every single action I take,however small, up to a public vote.
having your individualness absorbed into a collective consciousness is some peoples idea of heaven
I’ve seen this type of comment in scifi threads. It was about that one planet-consciousness in the Foundation series, some guy thought it would be hell to lose his individuality. But I think that people are confusing privacy or autonomy with individuality.
Also the fact that individuality is already illusory to begin with – we are social animals, and if we truly tried to be absolutely individual, we’d end up as a feral child or some bizarre hermit. And ironically we live in an age where we are so alienated not just from others but our own selves, and our very species-essence as well
Also society relentlessly bullies neurodivergent people with whom they have difficulty empathizing. Neurotypicals already have a weak hivemind and they attack anyone who can’t or won’t join it. Neurotypicals are the borg, except not communist. They’re the Borg but worse.
This comment made me realize that Odo’s people aren’t so different from the Borg.
