Hello, A few weeks ago there was concern about the lack of appropriate tags for andromorph and gynomorph characters in this community’s sidebar.

The proposal, which was very sensible proposed the tags [G] for gynomorph, [A] for Andromorph, [H] for intersex (from the word herm) and [U] for ambiguous or unknown.

I did not reply at the time due to personal circumstances, but I did want to acknowledge that it is a valid concern and request.

The issue I see with the [G] tag is that it would clash with the current tag that’s used for male gay characters.

And you might wonder, why is there such a big emphasis on using a single letter?

The rationale between using a single letter [G] to describe a picture that could be [M/M], [M/M/M], [M/M/M/M], etc… is because it make searching and filtering much easier.

A picture tagged as [G] is a picture where there’s only male gay activity represented. A picture tagged as [G-S] is a picture where there’s a group of characters representing a male gay activity and a separate group of characters that represent straight activity.

This makes it possible to easily search or filter posts you’re interested in and it avoids very verbose titles with lots of letters, especially if it’s an orgy that’s being depicted.

My proposal for representing Andromorphs and Gynomorphs is with the following tags: [G*] for Andromorphs and [L*] for Gynomorphs.

This means that andromorphs are effectively treated as male and gynomorphs are effectively treated as female. I believe this could be especially important for the fursonas of trans furries. The asterisk is there to indicate the same nuance that we’d find in written language with the wording ‘trans male’ and ‘trans female’ which to my knowledge is acceptable and not considered derogatory or representative of a lesser form of gender in any way.

[G*] would be used if at least of one the characters in andromorph. For solo pictures [M*] can be used. [M*/M] or [M*/M*] would also be acceptable for more characters although with more than two characters I’d say [G*] would be preferrable.

[L*] would be used if at least of the characters is gynomorph. For solo pictures [F*] can be used. [F*/F] or [F*/F*] would also be acceptable for more characters although with more than two characters I’d say [L*] would be preferrable.

Finally we’d have [I] for Intersex, when characters share both male and female genitals such as a penis and a vagina at the same time. To my knowledge intersex is an acceptable term.

Finally [A] can then be used for “ambiguous”.

The reason I wanted to bring this up with all of you first and just propose it for now is because I want to make sure that what I’m proposing is sensible and respectful. I wouldn’t want to make assumptions about what’s acceptable or what’s disrespectful and make a faux pas.

Please let me know your feedback! Thank you!

  • @[email protected]
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    19 months ago

    Please do read this in an extremely cis guy voice, I missed where these concerns were brought up but were genitalia that big of deal that we can’t just use F and M for transfem and transmasc characters? I feel like I for intersex can be used (though I very rarely encounter a depiction of the type) and E for enby, though Ambiguous also work.

    Maybe using TF and TM, like in ERP tags could also be done, if the need for precise tagging is that urgent.

    I usually understand this type of cataloguing when coming from a gallery website, like e621 or rule34, which are made for archival and search purposes, but I never thought the same of image boards/forums like these.

    I’m just used to sharing in blahaj’s trans yiff board, which doesn’t need precise clarifications for obvious reasons, hence the wondering.

      • @Alpharius
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        29 months ago

        I think that gynomorph and andromorph characters should have a separate tag for two main reasons, one being for easier search and archiving purposes, and two being that some people may specifically want to look for those types of characters, or wish not to see them. I realise that may seem a little derogatory, but ultimately there are characteristics some people do or don’t find attractive, so the choice to be able to search for those traits or filter them out should exist