It IS too complicated tho. I consider myself pretty techy, but my Linux experience, just trying to do basic things like downloading a program, became a long chain of troubleshooting and installations of dependecies and searching online for answers.
Sadly, it got me REAL turned off Linux. I love the concept of it, but at the end of the day, I just want something that works.
just trying to do basic things like downloading a program, became a long chain of troubleshooting and installations of dependecies and searching online
Why, are you using Gentoo?
Package management is by far one of the easiest things on Linux, especially with Flatpak, even easier than on Windows that, for comparison, got a package manager only recently and it’s still barebones af
As a long time Linux user, I was amazed when the entire tech industry “invented” package management a couple of decades after Linux. Did you know Apple invented the idea of being able to install an app and all its dependencies, signed by a central authority? So much easier than any other OS before it!
I’ve been using a Mac since 1991, so to say I’m invested in a particular OS already would be an understatement. That said, I’ve also tried Linux many times, and in the long run I’ve abandoned each of those for ridiculously simply things I think it should be able to do that will take me more time than I’m willing to lose to get that simple thing to work. I -work in IT- and I still don’t want to sped my off-time troubleshooting problems. Learning, yes. Fixing, not so much.
I’ve run into these issues in the few years since I’ve switched. Old outdated stuff or windows exclusive software can be a hassle to get running. Possible, but your putting a square peg in a round hole.
Were flatpaks a thing when you tried Linux last? Flatpak makes installing most programs extremely easy. I just search my distros software store and hit install. As a bonus, you often get newer versions than when you install software traditionally, and updates can be set to automatically download.
I’ve run Pop OS since 2019. I have never reinstalled and I only touch the terminal maybe once every 6 months. Absolutely everything I do is GUI.
Honestly, People on lemmy are outlandishly pro Linux. I will say that the primary thing that people use, Twitter, Reddit, windows, ends up working a lot better than the alternatives. I love my instance but it’s downtime is like 1 nines at this point. If that. I dedicate time to check out Linux distros every year since 2012 when it stopped being my daily driver and constantly hit problems that I just do not want to deal with.
Ah, I see. 90% is unbearable for me. I would move away from any instance with a uptime of less than 95% no matter how much their ideology aligns with mine (unless the admins promise to improve it).
No problem. I make games for Windows/Linux and still believe Linux one day can be for me again. I still script in bash using WSL rather than batch or powershell. I use an array of open-source software rather than Windows-locked apps. This year I’ve used OpenSuse, Debian, Pop_OS, Manjaro, Garuda, and Linux Mint.
And whatever you do, don’t say “Apple” lest you release the banshees that somehow think Android isn’t just Google spyware. Seriously, Android core OS will end up as easily corrupted as Chrome in the long run, but sure, keep thinking it’s freedom I guess.
I think people like Android devices because you can put a completely different, non-google OS on them.
Some Android fans don’t quite get that, and some aren’t specific with their language, so it reads like they’re talking about how secure the Android OS is. That’s my guess, anyway.
I could also call it the “Linux struggle”
"Windows and Microsoft spy on you, it breaks, it’s heavy, its hardware requirements are too hard, windows updates…
you could try Linux, you can even game on it nowadays.
naaah it’s too complicated. Anyway, gotta edit the registry to disable a feature"
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It IS too complicated tho. I consider myself pretty techy, but my Linux experience, just trying to do basic things like downloading a program, became a long chain of troubleshooting and installations of dependecies and searching online for answers.
Sadly, it got me REAL turned off Linux. I love the concept of it, but at the end of the day, I just want something that works.
Why, are you using Gentoo?
Package management is by far one of the easiest things on Linux, especially with Flatpak, even easier than on Windows that, for comparison, got a package manager only recently and it’s still barebones af
As a long time Linux user, I was amazed when the entire tech industry “invented” package management a couple of decades after Linux. Did you know Apple invented the idea of being able to install an app and all its dependencies, signed by a central authority? So much easier than any other OS before it!
Lol, didn’t even know about it, well typical Apple behavior ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯
I’ve been using a Mac since 1991, so to say I’m invested in a particular OS already would be an understatement. That said, I’ve also tried Linux many times, and in the long run I’ve abandoned each of those for ridiculously simply things I think it should be able to do that will take me more time than I’m willing to lose to get that simple thing to work. I -work in IT- and I still don’t want to sped my off-time troubleshooting problems. Learning, yes. Fixing, not so much.
Sounds like you really don’t want to learn smth new and you don’t want people to think you are lazy.
I’ve run into these issues in the few years since I’ve switched. Old outdated stuff or windows exclusive software can be a hassle to get running. Possible, but your putting a square peg in a round hole.
Were flatpaks a thing when you tried Linux last? Flatpak makes installing most programs extremely easy. I just search my distros software store and hit install. As a bonus, you often get newer versions than when you install software traditionally, and updates can be set to automatically download.
I’ve run Pop OS since 2019. I have never reinstalled and I only touch the terminal maybe once every 6 months. Absolutely everything I do is GUI.
You forgot the ‘/s’.
Yes, let me just buy a new CPU, disable telemetry by this random EXE from the internet, and get everything broken with every update.
Not even drivers are better on Windows.
Besides, what do you download and on which distro to solve dependencies manually?
Honestly, People on lemmy are outlandishly pro Linux. I will say that the primary thing that people use, Twitter, Reddit, windows, ends up working a lot better than the alternatives. I love my instance but it’s downtime is like 1 nines at this point. If that. I dedicate time to check out Linux distros every year since 2012 when it stopped being my daily driver and constantly hit problems that I just do not want to deal with.
What does “1 nines” mean?
By the way thanks for actually trying out Linux before deciding that Windows works better for you.
One nine is 90% uptime, three is 99.9% etc.
Ah, I see. 90% is unbearable for me. I would move away from any instance with a uptime of less than 95% no matter how much their ideology aligns with mine (unless the admins promise to improve it).
No problem. I make games for Windows/Linux and still believe Linux one day can be for me again. I still script in bash using WSL rather than batch or powershell. I use an array of open-source software rather than Windows-locked apps. This year I’ve used OpenSuse, Debian, Pop_OS, Manjaro, Garuda, and Linux Mint.
And whatever you do, don’t say “Apple” lest you release the banshees that somehow think Android isn’t just Google spyware. Seriously, Android core OS will end up as easily corrupted as Chrome in the long run, but sure, keep thinking it’s freedom I guess.
I think people like Android devices because you can put a completely different, non-google OS on them.
Some Android fans don’t quite get that, and some aren’t specific with their language, so it reads like they’re talking about how secure the Android OS is. That’s my guess, anyway.