That was a roller-coaster…

  • Kalothar
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    941 year ago

    Well, IIRC there were stages to trying new things, kinda like:

    Test 1: rub plant on forearm, see if it has a reaction. Test 2: eat small piece of plant/thing to see reaction Test 3: eat progressively larger pieces and rinse and repeat

    This is probably only in survival situations

  • @treefrog@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    i grow mushrooms outside and do some foraging.

    if a mushroom is covered in bugs it’s probably edible. centipedes, fungus gnats, and slugs are all common on my outdoor beds.

    there are a few edible fungi i don’t see bugs eat, like meatier varieties such as shiitake and saddle backs, but i have never seen bugs go after poisonous fungi

    some bugs will eat psychedelic fungi just like some animals will. but there tends to be less predation with them.

    • @gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works
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      231 year ago

      I’m also a forager and I think this is a very dangerous and irresponsible thing to say.

      Please never rely on that advice if you ever go mushroom foraging. There is no short cut here.

      • @treefrog@lemm.ee
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        61 year ago

        i said probably and my point was made in the context of the meme. it wasn’t advice on safe foraging but an observation on how early humans may have made intelligent guesses before we had reliable guide books and the internet.

    • @Neil@lemmy.ml
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      211 year ago

      I read somewhere this is how humans most likely learned what is good and bad to eat. Just need to see something else eating it and it’s most likely good.

    • @where_am_i@lemmy.world
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      131 year ago

      your shiitake is not being eaten cuz it’s very far from native species in your area. I’m sure where it originally grows bugs feast on them non stop

      • @treefrog@lemm.ee
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        21 year ago

        that’s my thought too.

        but saddle back are native here and edible and i rarely see predation

      • Kalothar
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        51 year ago

        And fly agaric isnt very poisonous, as long as it’s dehydrated

      • @treefrog@lemm.ee
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        21 year ago

        i have a friend that ate a lot of the stuff. i know it can be toxic at high doses but i would call it psychoactive more than poisonous.

        also see my comment regarding some bugs like psychedelics (I’ve heard of slugs and racoons going after outdoor psilocybin beds)

  • nighty
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    241 year ago

    Sometimes I think about things like this when it comes to cheese and fermented stuff. Like, who was the first guy to work out that you can get rotten food and either get high off it or get tasty stuff out of them?

    • @AlaskaMan@lemmy.world
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      81 year ago

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  • Think about how much shit you have to do to make cheese. Or bread.

    How did people figure that shit out? At some point I have to think that people were just mixing everything together and seeing what happened. Sometimes they made tasty food. Sometimes they made something useful. Sometimes they made poisonous gas. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Saneless@lemmy.world
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    201 year ago

    At some point if you’re starving enough it’s eat this and maybe die or don’t eat this and definitely die

  • @Heisl@feddit.de
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    201 year ago

    Hear me out, what if the Bible prophecies and the whole concept happened because they tried something new and were just trippin out?

    • @AstroKevin@lemmy.world
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      311 year ago

      Crazy enough, the Bible wasnt written all at once. The Bible was written over a span of approximately 1,300 years (depending on your historical, linguistic, and theological beliefs of course).

      • The Old Testament, also known as the Hebrew Bible, was written between approximately the 12th century BC and the 2nd century BC.
      • The New Testament was written in the first century AD, from approximately AD 50 to AD 100.

      So probably a bit of the old testament could have been written while under the influence of mushrooms as that’s when we were experimenting with wild mushrooms.

      But what do I know, the picture says I died from mushrooms.

    • b3nsn0w
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      141 year ago

      that’s pretty clearly how the book of revelations was written

    • @Selmafudd@lemmy.world
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      21 year ago

      Literally ever time I’m tripping I always think the whole religion thing is just so people have some inspiration to drawn from if it starts going bad… like call in an angel or some shit to save your ass

    • @webghost0101@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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      91 year ago

      The supposed logic here is that the human genes that liked the taste of some toxic plants died out.

      It can help in a survival pinch to weed out your options but I wouldn’t rely on it as a guaranteed truth.

    • @018118055@sopuli.xyz
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      11 year ago

      There are extremely poisonous and delicious mushrooms. You can buy them in a grocery store here in Finland. They need to be boiled multiple times, discarding the water, to be safe to eat.

  • ChrisostomeStrip
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    81 year ago

    Actually there’s interesting theory how eating magic mushrooms speeded or even shaped development of consciousness in our ancestors.