• @[email protected]
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    The lack toilets in every imaginable place is insultingly ableist and very degrading. It’s like people are ashamed we’re fucking people and need to piss and shit all the time. And then the cops have the gull to threaten me with fines when I take a leak under a tree in a park. You literally treat dogs better than people.

    • @[email protected]
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      48 months ago

      If its anything like Vancouver, its quite possibly in response to doing absolutely nothing about a homelessness crisis and the open drug use that results from that. So yeah, ablist and degrading, as well as anti poor

    • @[email protected]
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      98 months ago

      At first I though “surely this is about the US”, but no, even in the US at least some states require public bathrooms in all coffee shops, cafe, restaurants etc. Some states have exceptions depending on the size of the establishment and some states do not have this regulation at all.

      I also just checked Dutch and some other countries’ laws. Public bathrooms are required for new establishments with no exceptions. I have not found a EU-wide regulation though.

      • @[email protected]
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        48 months ago

        Vancouver, B.C. Canada Checking in, bathrooms are only required if you have indoor seating, so a lot of places didnt reinstall their tables post pandemic, and thus kept their washrooms closed

      • @[email protected]
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        18 months ago

        Yes I am indeed dutch but even here in Ecuador (14y now) I have not heard of a bar without a piss spot at the very least

  • Noxy
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    8 months ago

    “Just go home. I’d rather have a no-coffee-buyer than a defecator” -Latte Larry

  • DasherPack
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    118 months ago

    Here it is compulsory. I am very surprised to hear that in the USA it isn’t.

    • The Picard ManeuverOP
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      88 months ago

      It’s honestly pretty rare for places to not have one in the US unless you’re in the downtown part of a major city. Sometimes when walking downtown, it feels like every shop’s bathrooms are staff-only.

      • DasherPack
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        28 months ago

        Here we have laws that even include the allowed ratio between bathroom stalls and clients

    • @[email protected]
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      18 months ago

      In mamy states in the US it is a requirement for any place serving food and drink to have a bathroom.

  • @[email protected]
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    88 months ago

    where i live we have minimal tap water flow at night due to drought, and coffeeshops like to pull this ‘wc is closed since water is off’ and now i am stuck with a ton of caffeine filling my bladder :(

    • Neato
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      Most toilets will flush when you add enough water to the bowl. So really if enough people pee it’s a self someone solving problem.

      • @[email protected]
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        38 months ago

        exactly. pee is not really a problem, and the odor could still be manageable with minimum sanitation. A coffeeshop with open wc would earn its owner a lot of love points, and probably more clients too.

    • @[email protected]
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      08 months ago

      Where I live functional washrooms are required by code, and the coffeeshop would have to close until they are able to make the washroom functional.

      • @[email protected]
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        18 months ago

        it is functional, but they close it so they could cut costs (cleaning, water). They pull this at night, when regulatory body is off-duty

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      From what I’ve heard Europe is way more gatekeepey with their bathrooms. Having ones you have to pay for? It’s extremely rare for a place to not have a bathroom here, even in a city.

      Edit: I think I grew up in one of the states where they’re pretty strict about having bathrooms. Blue states rule lol

      • @[email protected]
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        28 months ago

        Well, it is public bathrooms you have to pay for here, as they are run commercially. But each place that offers food or drink and where you can sit down (so e.g. a food vendor cart is excempt) has to have free toilets for their customers. Some might be better, some might be worse (I’ve been in a McD in a … not so well off part of a town and it was horrible - you had to ask for a key, and they had this horrible, dim bluish light that is supposed to reduce drug use). But customers toilets are free.

        A friend of ours had a restaurant at a hiking trail in a forest, and he had put up a donation box for those who just wanted to use a toilet without eating or drinking there, which I consider fair.

    • @[email protected]
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      18 months ago

      Yes, we’re well known for not having free and publicly accessible bathrooms.

      … Wait, I though you said “Germany”.

  • Throwaway
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    This is why America is better. Every restraunt and store has publicly available bathrooms.

      • @[email protected]
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        28 months ago

        I just dumped out in the 7/11’s bathroom down the street from my house over the weekend.

        • @[email protected]
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          18 months ago

          Odd, almost every 7-11 I’ve been to either flat out says no or they’re “permanently broken”

    • Turun
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      118 months ago

      Every place where you can sit down to eat or drink is required to have one in Germany.

      • @[email protected]
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        128 months ago

        This is probably one of those “varies by state” things, as usual, but in my state anything classed as a restaurant on its business license must provide a bathroom. Sometimes this causes them considerable inconvenience, and sometimes you wouldn’t want to use it anyway, but it is there.

        • @[email protected]
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          28 months ago

          Yeah that’s what I was saying. I think it’s any place that serves prepared food or drink is required here in Ohio. But I think they can restrict use to customers only.