• Dremor
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      910 months ago

      Which would be saying the truth. Which contradict itself.

      • @[email protected]
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        1410 months ago

        No—if they were to ask you, you would lie and say “no”. So the claim that you’d make a true statement is still a lie.

      • Bilbo Baggins
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        410 months ago

        No, it’s a lie. They wouldn’t say yes, so saying that they would say yes is a lie.

        • Dremor
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          110 months ago

          You won’t have to lie to said question, but you’d have to tell the truth to do that… or that be a lie too… well, OC is partly right. But it isn’t a surefire solution.

          If your interlocutor end up asking you the question anyway, you either have to answer “yes”, in which case OC told the truth and then you don’t always lie, which means you lied to the answer (as you donlt always lie). Or you answer “No”, which means you lied in OC, but told the truth as an answer.

          Either way, there is no solution to this paradox. You cannot tell that you always lie without telling a truth.

  • @[email protected]
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    1910 months ago

    You can say the statement. Doesn’t mean the statement is true. You might be a habitual liar and that particular statement is a lie.

  • @[email protected]
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    1910 months ago

    Unfortunately you are wrong as there is a very distinct way to say the phrase you quoted, that being to utter the words “I always lie.”

      • @[email protected]
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        1110 months ago

        A fun detail is that all the franken cubes fry and die after hearing the paradox, but Wheatley is still fine.

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          I always wondered why glados is fine, just saying because she’s a potatoe doesn’t sit with me because she recognised the paradox herself, so she must know what a paradox is and understand why it’s dangerous for ai

          • @[email protected]
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            610 months ago

            I think she was intelligent enough to temporarily shut down the portions of her brain that would be effected. At least that was my take.

          • @[email protected]
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            410 months ago

            I always saw it as her just saying in her mind, “This. Statement. Is. False.” thus just being some four individual one word sentences.

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              610 months ago

              That is plausible, but she saw the sign and read the paradoxes on the signboard - surely just seeing the paradoxes written on the sign would have caught her off guard. I guess it doesn’t matter, they just wanted to do a funny moment and it was still good

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          Yeah, the implication being that in a typical Sledgehammers-To-Crack-Nuts solution to a nonexistent problem, Aperture put full-blown, totally sentient AIs in their cubes/turrets that were at least as intelligent as Wheatley.

          Also I only just noticed that Bagley from Watch Dogs is very, very similar to Wheatley.

  • @[email protected]
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    410 months ago

    Not quite. You missed the fact that it doesn’t need to be the entire statement. “I always lie when I say that the sky is green”

  • @[email protected]
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    410 months ago

    “Me? I’m dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It’s the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they’re going to do something incredibly… stupid.”

  • @[email protected]
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    410 months ago

    Technically you can’t always lie (“always” is the key here) so the statement can’t be true. Besides that you can say the words in that specific order, no problem.