• @renzev@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    This meme was brought to you by an arch user desperately trying to justify the mental gymnastics of using systemd in their supposedly “keep it simple” distro

    EDIT: I joke of course. If arch/systemd works well for you, that’s all that matters!

  • @MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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    111 day ago

    Haha now I kinda feel like this is Endeavour. I’m really liking Endeavour! It feels like Arch but just a bit smoother of an approachability curve. Lovely community, too.

    I should mess with Void sometime. 🤔

    • @0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      41 day ago

      It’s more like Arch than Endeavour though, just a heads up. Very little GUI things, especially the installer and all that. Well, the installed is TUI, so It’s not that hard to be honest.

  • Matt
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    224 hours ago

    Alpine is better. It’s more minimal.

      • Matt
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        216 hours ago

        But it’s very minimal with a very small attack surface by default (because of Musl, glibc is bloated).

        • @renzev@lemmy.world
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          116 hours ago

          There is a busybox/musl version of Void as well, but iirc it’s only for use in containers, not a bootable distro. But yeah alpine is also great, I love it as well.

          • Matt
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            315 hours ago

            Plus it’s the base for the best mobile distribution (imo, obviously) PostmarketOS

    • @0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      1 day ago

      Rolling release and stable. And no systemd… not by choice though, they’re not purists, you just can’t build it for musl.

      • @nesc@lemmy.cafe
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        120 hours ago

        Musl and stable is one worst word combinations there is. I still have nighmares from broken packages under alpine that worked just fine under normal distro. It took us like a week to find the problem. Bad times.

  • Cris
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    552 days ago

    Frankly I’d much rather have void. Super cool distro, a lot of things about it seem like an ideal fit for me, I just don’t really have the technical skill to get a minimal distro all set up the way I want it

    Plus their logo is pretty. Which shouldn’t matter but like, look at it- it’s a cool logo!

    • Yes, the install process is difficult to perform. But once you do it, you’ll feel like a wizard. You learn so much from the process if you do a manual chroot install. It helps you understand how the installation process for other distros like Debian works. If you have some free time, I would recommend trying it in a virtual machine.

      • Cris
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        32 days ago

        I tried when I set up my new laptop and definitely learned a ton, but eventually stalled at getting network manager setup so I could use GNOME settings to configure networks, and getting sound set up

        I completely forgot about trying it in a VM, I may have to go give that a try!

        If it had package kit implementation so I could use a graphical package manager/app store it’d basically be my perfect distro if I could get it set up the way I want. An independent distro, super elegant, if I understand right the packages are all vanilla, “stable rolling release”. I really like it, a minimal distro is just a bit beyond me skill-wise, and I’d miss having a way to browse native (non-flatpak) applications graphically

        • @namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev
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          Sorry to hear about the network manager issues! I could be wrong on this, but I think Gnome is not the best supported DE in void - possibly because of how heavily tied it is to systemd. I wish I could help, but I still configure my wifi using wpa_supplicant.conf. Maybe dbus wasn’t setup properly?

          Regarding audio, the pipewire documentation for Void is pretty good. It’s pretty thematic of the whole Void linux experience: you have to read the handbook and follow its steps closely, but it’s very well written and easy to understand. It can definitely be time-consuming as well though.

          Void is definitely all the things you mentioned. I installed it on a few machines, the first in early 2020 and it has never given me an issue. Extremely stable and boring. I’m impressed that it has so many packages in its repository, but that’s a testament to how well xbps is written. But there are a few things missing since it’s fair from the mainstream, including packagekit. I had never heard of it before you mentioned it - I found a fork on github to support it, but it doesn’t look very well maintained.

  • @ngn@lemmy.ml
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    152 days ago

    the only thing void has over arch is more architecture support (which is kinda ironic)

      • @ngn@lemmy.ml
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        223 hours ago

        that kinda depends on your personal experience - for example ive been running arch for 2 years, i do weekly updates and ive never encountered a single issue