• @rhacer@lemmy.world
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    16712 days ago

    But it IS how we see prices. If there weren’t science behind it, they wouldn’t be doing it.

    • @PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
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      8812 days ago

      A lot of marketing strategies are pseudoscience. Just like a lot police investigation practices or body language assumptions.

          • @Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee
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            The CEO decided that clients were smart intelligent people and treated people as adults. Aka, no discounts, no 99 pricing, it just costs what it costs, as low as we can make it, plus our margin.

            JC Penny was already not too well, this helped sink them

            • @TehWorld@lemmy.world
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              3312 days ago

              It was less about the .99 pricing and more about “Sale” pricing and ‘coupons’. Retailers will put a pair of pants on “Sale” for 50% off 51 weeks out of the year and people think they’re getting a great deal whereas when it’s not half off, they just don’t buy.

            • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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              1712 days ago

              Poor guy. Tried to do some good in the world and paid the price for it. Nobody ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of the average person.

              • Laurel Raven
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                812 days ago

                “Why would I pay $25 for these pair of pants at full price when I could pay $24.99 for those [identical] pants that are half off?! Clearly, that’s the better deal!”

                Hell, could probably even make it $29.99 for the identical pants and people will still go with that because they think they’re paying five more bucks and getting a $60 pair of pants

        • Prox
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          Does anyone in the thread have actual info to back this up?

      • @BakerBagel@midwest.social
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        I was watching a PBS documentary about the first humans in the Americas. All the scientists are super cool until you get to the American anthropologist who starts using phrenology to explain why Native American tribes shouldn’t be given repatriation rights, only for a Danish geneticist to say “yeah, this is absolutely a Native American and i am willing to testify to that in any court of law”

        Pseudoscience is still all the rage if it can be used to push a political agenda.

    • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      211 days ago

      The science is about how you initially react to the number. Your brain will see $19, and immediately you’ll think it’s $19. Only upon further inspection and processing through your cognition, you recognise that its $19.99, which is basically $20.

      It’s that initial reaction they want, to grab your attention. Anyone who is going through life without leveraging their higher thinking will fall for this shit. Anyone who thinks, at all, won’t.

      Unfortunately, there’s a nontrivial number of people who fall into that first category. People who were never taught to think. They just do.

    • @PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
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      It is kind of a dick move when companies overcharge for shipping. I only charge calculated shipping on large or heavy items because those are the ones that vary a lot and I don’t want someone in zone 8 (like Southern California or even someone in HI buying it and shipping costing more than they paid. If it’s under 1 lb then I just give free shipping and bake it into the price.

      • @moonbunny@lemmy.world
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        This reminds me of my early shopping days using EBay, where it wasn’t uncommon for sellers to under-price their products so they show up near the top of the price (cheapest-most expensive) sort pile, and then charge an outrageous amount in shipping.

        I’ve found that almost always (at the time), that the seller offering free or low cost shipping was usually cheaper.

        • @PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
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          That was because their fees were based on the sale price of the item minus the shipping. So they were only paying fees on 1 cent. They changed the fees so that the total sale including shipping is calculated.

    • @Mercuri@lemmy.world
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      Part of it is that there’s less hidden costs. I like it when it’s just “the total is $30” instead of “there’s $8 shipping and a $2 service fee and then $4 in taxes and…”

      I’ve also seen some online stores lure in a customer with a really cheap initial price and then on the last page just slam them with insane shipping and handling fees hoping that the customer either doesn’t notice or feels too invested at this point to cancel their purchase.

      But yes, part of it is also people are stupid when they see the word “free” as if the store wouldn’t move the cost somewhere else.

    • @Jackthelad@lemmy.world
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      612 days ago

      I don’t understand people who won’t pay £5 for shipping, but will instead spend another £15 on something they don’t need so they get free shipping.

      All you’ve done is lost money.

    • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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      511 days ago

      That at least allows you to retrieve the full amount if you return the goods. Shipping costs you don’t get back.

  • volvoxvsmarla
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    My husband is awful in that regard. He sees the first digit only and then rounds it down. “It’s just 30€” - it’s 39,99€. “It’s like 200€” - it’s 289,90€, “5000€” - 5999€. I love him to pieces but I don’t trust any of his numbers.

  • From my experience working in retail I’ve seen people say out loud something like “oh, it’s only 4 dollars!” When the sticker says $4.99. This shit apparently works on a lot of people for some reason.

  • @gerryflap@feddit.nl
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    Honestly, however much I want to pretend to be better than that, I think it does work on me. Obviously not on a conscious level, I know how numbers work, but some part of my monkey brain sees the 1 instead of the 2 and therefore concludes that it must be way cheaper. It’s a feeling that no amount of facts is going to disable. And in the end many purchasing decisions aren’t based on a full analysis but on feelings.

  • Kalkaline
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    This is locally grown artisanal bullshit, it’s actually $300, please tip.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      412 days ago

      please tip

      I’ve actually started carrying cash again for the first time in 20 years because I’m sick of every fucking POS machine in the world asking for tips. Yes, I can choose not to tip, but there’s an emotional cost associated with that decision. There’s a cost associated with just seeing the option instead of being able to simply pay for my item and go about my day.

  • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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    2912 days ago

    Most people are idiots most of the time.

    Some people are idiots some of the time.

    No one is never an idiot.

  • @BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee
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    These dumbasses thinks this works on us smart people. Anyway, gotta go fight some people on black friday for shit i don’t even need nor afford

    • unalivejoy
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      Which just so happens to have been the same price all month.

    • @rumba@lemmy.zip
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      212 days ago

      The only thing that I ever go for on black Friday is software. A lot of software is actually legitimately cheaper on black Friday sales.

        • @rumba@lemmy.zip
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          111 days ago

          No, ham radio deluxe, Topaz Labs, phrase Express, on Black Friday they’re half their normal price, if you come back in February it is twice the price that it is on Black Friday. Software companies are a special case. While it takes a lot of money and or effort to make their product, minting that product is particularly cheap. Same concept for steam sales. The real advantage is selling the product very cheaply a couple of days a year gets it out in the public more and they end up with more word of mouth sales.

    • @Snowclone@lemmy.world
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      Worked in pricing for a big retailer, it 100% works and retailers don’t even like doing it, but it’s basically a necessity to get baseline sales. It’s WAY easier to have simple even number prices that calculate easily and get percent off sales and clearance prices that make sense. Really the only items you see it on are items competing with other retailers, so kraft mayo that every store has vs. A store brand soda you don’t care about volume on. The Mayo you better have $5.99 instead of $6.00 or it looks like you’re ripping them off. And even if they sell it got $4.99 it still keeps people thinking it’s a complex price difference rather than an even number they can compare more easily.

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    2812 days ago

    It does work believe it or not. It is something that plays to your subconscious. You will favor the slightly cheaper option even if you aren’t aware of it.

    • @shneancy@lemmy.world
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      not just cheaper though

      even subconsciously $15.55 will not be that better than $15.56

      but in a change from $20 to $19.99 the whole first number is smaller, and that gives our ape brains the feeling that it’s not as expensive

      to reveal the vibes your brain operates on, think about bigger numbers. Imagine yourself to be in kind of a rush, you want to buy something, but family is waiting, or you need to walk your dog, or maybe you’re doing shopping before work, regular life stuff,

      first scenario

      an identical item is sold for $2920 in the first store you visit, and for $2970 in the second store you visit. The stores are an inconvenient travel time away from each other. Do you go back to the first store?

      second scenario

      now, an identical item is sold for $2975 in the first store you visit, and for $3025 in the second store you visit. The stores are still an inconvenient travel time away from each other. Do you go back to the first store?

      though the difference is still $50, the jump from $2975 to $3025 feels more significant than $2920 to $2970. And obviously many of us will go back to get the cheaper option in both cases, but there’s a lot of people on this planet who have money to spare but not the time, and a lot of other circumstances too, marketing people know it and will do their damnest to sway you to buy their product

    • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      I learned all about this in “thinking fast and slow” by Daniel Kahneman. He talks about system 1 and system 2, where system 1 is your kind of knee-jerk reaction to a thing (thinking fast), and system 2 is the contemplative and careful consideration of a thing (thinking slow).

      I would argue that some people overly leverage system 1 (thinking fast) because it’s generally easier, and takes less time and mental effort to do. Those that either can’t, or are unwilling to engage system 2 in their day to day activities, will 100% fall for these kinds of misleading prices, since system 1 is cutting so many corners so that it can be fast and efficient (mostly on how much energy is used), that it skips a lot of the cognitive steps and goes right to the (often incorrect) conclusion. That $19.99 is $19 (or $10 in some cases).

      In the book, they discuss that system 1 often gives the wrong information that is later rejected by system 2 when further consideration is given to a particular input/stimulus.

      If someone isn’t engaging system 2 as a check to ensure system 1 isn’t lying to them, then shit like $19.99 seems cheaper than $20. It doesn’t hold up to any scrutiny, but they’re not targeting thoughtful people with these practices. For thoughtful people, there’s functionally no difference between $19.99 and $20.

      Yes, the difference is one cent, but given that one cent is so worthless in today’s society, to the point that Canada stopped making one cent coins (and other countries have done so as well), there’s functionally no difference between the prices.

      One cent is only worth anything if it is combined with many other cents. The sum of those pennies becomes valuable when you conglomerate enough of them.

  • Sixty
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    2411 days ago

    The amount of times I’ve watched Youtubers say something like “35 dollars” while showing an image that shows the price as $35.96 happens too often for me to side with OP lol, sorry.

    • Jolteon
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      To be fair, in that specific case, they could have been rounding to the nearest $5. Unlike virtually all other instances of that behavior.

  • I generally round up to nearest bigger number or close to that. $19.99 is $20. $23.99 would probably be $25. $180 would just be $200.

    No real rhyme or reason, just the bigger the number the more I fudge the “real” price upwards thanks to sales tax and a “can I really afford this?” factor.

  • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    2312 days ago

    I’m not sure it works on me. Not because I’m some super human resistant to advertising (I’m not) but because I’m so bad at math that when they start asking me about anything involving small change I tune out and overestimate by 50% rounded into nice whole numbers.

    “This is 19.99”

    “Okay so it’s basically 30$.”

    It gives me nice surprises sometimes when I get my receipt.

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            yep, and figure out what 20% of your bill is by taking 10% and double it. saves my ass every time i gotta tip lol

            • @Sludgeyy@lemmy.world
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              You can take 1% of anything, then multiply as well.

              Like 7% of 15.50

              1% is .155 (10% is moving decimal to left once, 1% is twice)

              .155 × 7 = 1.083

              That’s a hard one to do in your head, but .155 × 7 is easier to do on paper than 15.50 × .07.

              Say something is 49.99 and 7% off. 1% is .5. .5 ×7 = 3.5. You could probably do that in your head. Otherwise, good luck trying to do 7% of 50 in your head.

              Edit: Hmm. So you could also do 3.5% of 100 instead of 7% of 50. That would have been the easiest way to do that one.

              Bonus: I thought I’d mention 11s. They are my favorite thing in math because they are so easy and you seem like a math wizard to anyone.

              Say you have 42 × 11. That’s 462.

              You just split apart the 4 and 2, add 4 and 2, then stick it in the middle.

              Something like 67 × 11. Where the digits add >10.

              6…7, 6+7=13, 6+1…3…7. So 737.

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    People suck at math and this is how they confuse people into not caring what the actual price becomes when they have to add multiple items together.

    What’s 19.99 + 21.75 + 4.99 + 3.99 + 1.99? Can the common person do that math in their head while grocery shopping? What about adding the tax to that total? Not a chance.

    Most people probably don’t even know what the sales tax is in their own state.

      • @MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world
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        411 days ago

        The major reason given is that taxes vary so much in the US by location that it would be onerous for businesses with locations in different areas to print different price tags and advertise prices broadly.

        It’s even an issue online because, until you enter your address, the online retailer has no clue what your tax rate will be, and they have to assess tax based on the purchaser’s location. Postal code isn’t always enough, as they can be shared by different cities with different tax rates.

        Some areas also vary tax by date (tax free holidays), though I don’t think consumers would care if their total ended up being cheaper than they thought.

        A national standard VAT would be the only way businesses might start including tax in price, but there’s no way to do that without a constitutional amendment. States have the power to tax, and they’re not going to stop now even if they receive VAT revenues.

        • JackbyDev
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          It’s bullshit because every location prints their own price tags lol.

          • @NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world
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            And then calculates tax right at the register. They have everything they need to do it, it’d hurt their bottom line and be consumer friendly so they don’t.

        • Sourav SatvayaOP
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          In some countries like India they have GST (Goods & service tax) which is applicable all over India. It was implemented in 2017 and has unified the indirect tax system across the country. This means that the same tax is levied on goods and services irrespective of the state or territory in India. Most items have 18% GST and the price tag always shows tax included, which is convenient for buyers.

      • @cynar@lemmy.world
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        Most people round down. Their brain locks on to the 1 of 19.99, and approximates it to 10.00. We need to actively counter this to see it as 20.00. It’s a skill most people don’t apply all the time, and a number can’t even do.

        Once you can do it reliably, it’s mind-boggling that others can’t, but it’s still a learnt skill, that needs to be applied.

          • @cynar@lemmy.world
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            It’s a subconscious thing. It’s how our brain is wired. It’s a bit like advertising. Most people don’t like ads. However, when confronted my 2 similar products, we will go with the familiar one. The source of that familiarity is irrelevant, ads make it familiar, just the same as using it, or a recommendation.

            It’s possible to override both of these effects, but that requires a level of conscious effort. I can almost guarantee you’ve been caught by both at different times. You just didn’t notice (since noticing would allow you to correct).

            Basically, $19.99 is in the category “under $20”. $20.00 is in “over $20”. Without conscious correction, you act on this.

          • @cynar@lemmy.world
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            111 days ago

            Some slight ramdom paper reading, back in my uni days. Though I’ve ran across it via other sources over the years since. Unfortunately I don’t have any links to hand though.

            It might better be described as people put numbers into categories. Most people have a 10-20 category. 19.99 fits. 20.00 gets bumped up to the next box. It’s a sub/semi conscious thing. If we use our higher thought process, we can deal with the numbers. That takes effort however, by default, we chunk. The price just abuses a common rollover point most people share.

      • @itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com
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        No. Most people round to the nearest whole number and often just pick a direction to round.

        Since no one does math in their head anymore the total is always more than they expected. No calculators on shopping carts anymore either.

    • @absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz
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      911 days ago

      That is honestly insane.

      In NZ the sticker price is what you pay, if the price on the sticker doesn’t include tax, it is false advertising and you pay what is on the sticker.

      It is entirely up to the retailer to ensure that the price is correct. The only exception to this, is if the price is obviously wrong e.g. $5.00 rather than $500.