• macniel
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        Disney coming for you, for misusing their copyright!

        • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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          Turning off downvotes is terrible. There should either be no voting, or up and down votes, with both displayed separately. This “upvote” only nonsense was created by corporate sites to make everything look popular for increased engagement, therefore increased ad views. No idea why Lemmy would follow that example.

          • @9bananas@lemmy.world
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            pretty sure because there’s a bunch of amateur porn communities, and people generally stop posting pics of themselves if they get downvoted.

            so, since downvotes literally kill those communities, they added the ability to not display downvotes.

            my only gripe with this is, that it’s apparently an instance-wide toggle, which is a bit inconvenient…

          • Séra BalázsOP
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            I support downvotes too, even if it doesn’t look like it from the post. If it’s used correctly, it’s a really good system.

  • Scrubbles
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    4023 days ago

    Are you talking about here? Or Reddit? I’ve definitely noticed some downvote trolling has been picking up here.

    • Séra BalázsOP
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      Here seems to be quiet, but it also feels empty. 5 memes a day is not enough for a bathroom break, and the total post count isn’t much higher, even when counting the US politics stuff that I as a hungarian have no interest in.

      • @proudblond@lemmy.world
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        1822 days ago

        I know it means nothing but, as an American, I’m sorry for the havoc our political system wreaks on your feed and on the world in general. We’re not thrilled about it either, typically.

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        722 days ago

        5 memes a day? Are you kidding? I get tons in my feed.

    • It does make you wonder if some of the instances were onto something with getting rid of the downvote button. They say it promotes discussion over just downvoting without any information as to why it was bad.

      The flip side would be that it allows misinformation to not be shown as such as evidently.

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        I don’t think that getting rid of downvotes is a good idea, it’s a great tool, just a lot of people use it incorrectly

  • @paddirn@lemmy.world
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    I think it happens all over and sometimes it really kind of depends on how long your argument is and the general impression people get from the first part of it. If you’re making a devil’s advocate argument in the first part, but then the twist comes later on, people are going to think your first devil’s advocate argument is the gist of it and downvote you based on that alone without getting into the nitty gritty. If people can form a knee-jerk reaction within the first few seconds of reading your post, they will, nuance gets lost.

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      I tend to leave really long comments, sometimes with a bit of raw information, so I see how that can be the case. Some communities like reading all the way trough, but I’m pretty sure that in some places, they don’t even read my username, just vote based on my avatar.

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      You suck because when you put a popsicle in your mouth, you don’t chew it, you lick it.

      (/s of course, I have nothing against you :) )

    • Séra BalázsOP
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      real. That’s my problem, they don’t have opinions just one good button and one bad button.

  • @SomeGuy69@lemmy.world
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    It’s also a lot of bots. They are here too. For example, just say China plus something negative about them, in a thread about China. Easiest downvoted one can get. Make sure it’s a fact and not whataboutism, to avoid contaminating the test.

    • Séra BalázsOP
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      I mostly see them on political communities, but based on your downvotes, they might be getting out

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        It’s two downvotes (at least on lemmy.ml at this point in time). Is it hard to imagine that 2 out of 16 people could dislike seeing someone say that anything that doesn’t fit their narrative is the result of bots?

        • Séra BalázsOP
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          At the time of writing that comment, it was 2 - 2, with one upvote from me.

            • Séra BalázsOP
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              It has 19 upvotes with 2 downvotes at the moment, which is a much more realistic ratio than what it was.

              • @Faresh@lemmy.ml
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                That’s weird, because it also has 2 downvotes for me at the moment (which means it can’t be some weird federation issue), but assuming that you originally saw 2 downvotes before I came along, then something something can’t be right because I am one of the two downvoters and I only saw the comment some hours after your comment in this thread (judging from the timestamp of my comment) (or maybe I visited the post once, then came back to leave a comment?).

      • @SomeGuy69@lemmy.world
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        It’s almost always instantly. Like sometimes second after posting. Then it either snowballs or it goes back into positive. But initially, be it on Lemmy or Reddit it happens. I’m not constantly complaining about China, the handful of times though, it’s super obvious. Doesn’t happen on other topics.

  • @The_Blinding_Eyes@lemmy.world
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    Just ignore up and down votes. They do not matter at all. If someone or a group don’t like your comment, well that’s a them problem. It should have no bearing on your life what so ever.

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      The votes still represent something in my opinion, that’s why they’re there. And I really don’t like it when I spend time writing, sometimes researching, formatting and somebody just says „no, this is shit” without even reading the first sentence, because they can just do that.

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        I’ve read your comment and decide it is shit, you should feel bad and go touch some grass no life loser who doesn’t get any pussy

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          You put atleast 130 times more effort to this comment than the average downvoter, thank you, you get my upvote!

    • OneMeaningManyNames
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      They do not matter at all.

      I beg to disagree. If “useless internet points” don’t matter, why is there a billion dollar marketing industry surrounding them? I mean all kinds of data mining conducted on all forms of internet reactions. People are paid good money to crunch these types of numbers, including who is casting the votes (man, woman, white, black, American, not-American, liberal, conservative, etc, etc). Then there is the troll/astroturfing angle. There are different types of campaigns that pay drones to upvote or downvote stuff, for marketing purpose or state-actor agendas.

      Sure basing your self-esteem on internet points is harmful and useless, but seeing internet reactions as a narcissist fuel only is also naive and misleading. Given the OP wants to get genuine feedback to his opinions to use as a political or moral compass, the question of the feedback quality is not moot at all.

      It should have no bearing on your life what so ever.

      The feedback quality is also indeterminate. We can’t know the proportion of astroturf, spooks/trolls, and genuine users in any upvote/downvote score and/or reaction. This can lead to a situation where the feedback to your opinions is always muddy, and vague. Do my opinions suck or is this their problem? In real life you won’t get honest feedback to your opinions anyway, for reasons of politeness. I read once this is why conspiracy theories thrive in Facebook more than Twitter (old study), because a network of acquaintances will not challenge your BS, but a crowd of strangers will.

      For all these reasons I think the OP’s question is a valid problem we don’t yet have good answers to. And it is relevant to any platform, Lemmy included.

    • @drathvedro@lemm.ee
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      Votes decide which comments get shown or not, and in which order. If you don’t care whether you are being heard, then you might as well just talk to a wall.

    • Séra BalázsOP
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      But not this strong. Since the fuck spez event, you can barely get any answers in the help subs, and you get instantly downvoted when you say something different. They once banned me from a subreddit and suspended me for 7 days from the entire platform because I said „No”. This place is much better, but it feels empty.

      • @BonerMan@ani.social
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        Don’t worry, it is empty and thats what makes it better.

        Oh and there is already a hive mind mentality on Lemmy.

        BTW, I think spez is bottotting shit to inflate reddit usage, and hive mind hijacking is a easy way to do so.

        • Séra BalázsOP
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          I haven’t seen the hivemind stuff here yet luckily. Also, what is „hive mind hijacking”, I haven’t heard about that before.

          • @BonerMan@ani.social
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            I think you might need to take a look at lemmygrad or hexbear, they are a hivemind.

            And hijacking as in gathering the time between a certain number of votes (in general) and letting the bots they use vote as well and in a non obvious way. At least thats basically how I coded my reddit bots back in the days…

      • @StinkyRedMan@lemmy.world
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        Might depend on the sub but it’s always been part of my experience on reddit. I’ve already been downvoted to something like - 70 for explaining commonly misunderstood game mechanics cause I’m a nerd and when I really like a game I like to know how it works in detail. Those were easily verifiable facts.

          • @StinkyRedMan@lemmy.world
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            Zombie mode from CoD. Most people play it casually but there is a handful of people trying to push the mode to its limit and I’m pretty much in-between those two groups, I lack the skill from the top players but I’m more dedicated and knowledgeable than the casual crowd.

      • @Sundial@lemm.ee
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        I haven’t been on reddit for years but I always remember it having this problem. My first account was made just so I could get that /r/atheism circlejerk out of my feed.

        I don’t know what it’s like now but keep in mind that in addition to the growth, reddit has been taken over by corporate interests. That, and the big increase in traffic, means it’s more of a target for botfarms and things of that nature.

        Best way to avoid this problem is to just participate in the smaller niche subreddits in my experience.

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          In my country it just became an actual „political platform”, the opposition leader started hosting an official AMA today. Maybe like with all things, it’s just politics ruining everything.

    • @Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      It has lots of very active niche communities that lemmy just doesn’t have. If you really want them then you have pretty much no choice. It’s also still a very useful site for your browser searches because of the amount of information on it.

        • @Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Many niche communities have more activity than lemmy itself or something rivaling lemmy. You’re missing my point about lemmy not having enough people. Lemmy is literally carried by few select posters. What’s worse is the fact that many communities straight up can’t be carried by 1 person because it’s for example a community for people’s personal stories and just copy/pasting it to lemmy would kill all nuance to it.

  • Cadenza
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    Can we get a sample of these “unpopular opinions”?

      • Cadenza
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        You seem to be pretty up voted on a regular basis except a few comments. In my humble opinion, most of them would not be explained by a specific reddit hive mind but rather classic moral panics. I mean, I’ve been campaigning my whole life for prison reform/abolition and that’s the typical kind of reactions I’ve got… irl. I suppose that’s just what you usually get when saying something which deviates from a specific state of public opinion.

        Not trying to play ackshually, but there doesn’t seem to be anything wrong with your posts/comments, imo.

  • DankDingleberry
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    thats so true. i once was downvoted to oblivion because i asked what the posted meme meant since it wasnt obvious