• GHiLA
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      Hobbyists have made Pokemon clones in their basement for decades. They never needed the source code.

      If I’m not mistaken, there’s an entire online RPG ran by hobbyists.

      • Echo Dot
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        11 hour ago

        They literally never introduce any new concepts to their games I think the last new innovation in the pokemon game is supposed to allow you to have two vs two. That was about 10 years ago I think

        • @[email protected]
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          I like to shit on Pokemon and Nintendo as much as the rest of them but this isn’t really true. Legends: Arceus, while not a great pokemon game overall, introduced several new mechanics, some of which then made their way into Scarlet/Violet. The biggest and best of which, in my opinion, is the ability to catch wild pokemon without battling them.

        • @[email protected]
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          I’m so so sorry to do this to you. Double battles were introduced with Ruby and Sapphire… 22 years ago…

      • @[email protected]
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        75 hours ago

        Maybe this was an intentional leak. Now the Nintendo lawyers can claim they’ve used stolen proprietary code?

        • @[email protected]
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          44 hours ago

          Copyright of code doesn’t work that way. Now if some idiot goes and uses that code in a game, yeah, they’d have a rough time in court.

          If Nintendo thought there was infringement already, and wanted to prove it in court, there are means to securely prove it with redactions and NDA’s and so forth as it would be considered trade secret.

  • @[email protected]
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    Good. Couldn’t have happened to a worse company other than Nintendo.

    Now people can verify if Gamefreak’s excuses for not including all Pokemon in each game since the Switch games are real. And verify how low effort their games are.

    • @[email protected]
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      187 hours ago

      Nintendo aren’t the worst company. Not even the worst gaming company. Not when they have competition like Ubisoft and Warner Brothers and EA and Activision.

      Of course, if it weren’t for the presence of the aforementioned companies, Nintendo would be the worst.

      • @[email protected]
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        105 hours ago

        I mean they take like 33% of that guy named bowser’s life earnings. Which are severely reduced because they also got him thrown in jail for a felony.

        That’s pretty uniquely evil

        • @[email protected]
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          That’s hardly unique when damages exceed what a person can pay, wage garnishing is actually relatively common.

          Nintendo also gave Gary Bowser a warning and he signed an agreement saying he would stop his illegal activities… and then he continued anyway.

          They gave him an out at no cost and instead he landed himself in prison because he fucked around and found out.

          • @[email protected]
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            I agree that bowser brought the final outcome on himself, however, that does not expunge Nintendo of guilt.

            They continue to collect their 30% or however much it is.

    • @[email protected]
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      118 hours ago

      Source code is only for HG/SS and B2W2, so we still can’t verify anything about the newer genes

    • @[email protected]
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      Now people can verify if Gamefreak’s excuses for not including all Pokemon in each game since the Switch games are real. And verify how low effort their games are.

      Wasn’t it true, but due to time not technical issues. Basically they keep redoing/remaking from scratch sprites instead of re-using them.

      • @[email protected]
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        Nope. The models have stayed the same from X&Y to Sword and Shield. Only in Scarlet and Violet have they been given an upgrade.

      • Liz
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        Nah, some folks got a hold of the wire frames for the sprites from the that version and the previous version and showed most were identical. Of those that weren’t, many were only slightly modified, and clearly not generated from scratch.

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        Evidence wouldn’t be as concrete as source code, but there was plenty of evidence from data miners. Gamefreak kept moving goal posts when it came to why it wasn’t feasible for Sword and Shield to have all the Pokémon which is my frustration with that situation. I think they complained about the capacity of the cartridge the games were stored on was one, which was readily proven wrong. Dont quote me on that. But I do think the situation with the models was ultimately the case.

  • @[email protected]
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    Next headline “Hackers disappointed that the hacked source code is apparently just the same as the last 16 games”

  • @[email protected]
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    Somebody had to find out whether there really was a Mew under the truck in Red and Blue after all.

    • Farid
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      You can’t patent code, and it’s automatically copyright protected. Nintendo just needs to prove they wrote the code originally, which should be easy.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 hour ago

        You can patent the features that the code makes up.

        Also, Nintendo has patented features existing in other games long before, and it hasn’t stopped them. The current lawsuit against palworld contains patent claims for features they do not actually own, which is why they need 100 different lawsuits coming their way so they get a taste of their own medicine.

        They have an easy time suing one or two entities, but 100 different ones will have a significant economic impact.

    • @[email protected]
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      Sort of. The same game, over and over, each time in a different colour, each time with a higher pixel density, each time a little bit worse.

  • @[email protected]
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    In my head this is a retribution for financing hackers that attacked Internet Archive and nobody can convince me otherwise

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      This is a conspiracy theory I’m completely behind. With all the moves Nintendo has made recently this was the first thing I thought when Internet Archive was compromised

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        It’s like Lenin said, you look for the person who will benefit… And, uh… You know, you’ll, uh… You know what I mean.

        The Dude

        „Who benefits the most” from attacking Internet Archive? Big copyright holders whose content was distributed via Internet Archive. The reason given by the group claiming responsibility is so silly I don’t believe it.

        [edit] I’ll add to this comment so that I don’t have to reply to everyone specifically.

        I don’t believe that if you wanted to attack USA (as people claiming responsibility did) you’d attack it in a way that benefits big corporations most. It sounds like a flimsy distraction from true perpetrators.

        • @[email protected]
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          For those curious, this account on Xitter claimed responsibility. Their stated reasons are indeed ridiculous, but I don’t at all have a hard time believing that people can be that misguided.

          • Dettweiler
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            That’s what I’m seeing, unless a documented source eventually shows up.

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              A documented source has shown up and its already been dismissed it as “silly”. Unlikely any future sources would change their mind.

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                There’s motive and circumstances. Nintendo opened every possible front in the last year or so. Now this happens. Even if not related to IA specifically this definitely looks like retribution.

                Also, please read my first comment again. I think I made it clear it’s speculation.

                • @[email protected]
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                  please read my first comment again. I think I made it clear it’s speculation.

                  Interesting, I got quite the opposite impression. And no one can convince me otherwise.

                • astrsk
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                  … nobody can convince me otherwise

                  Ignorance isn’t something to be proud of.

        • @[email protected]
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          You can believe what you want, but there’s absolutely no way you would be correct. Any large company sponsoring a cyber attack, if caught, would be nailed to the wall and made an example of. The extreme risks are simply not worth the comparatively small reward of reducing a tiny fraction of piracy.

          A more realistic and reasonable avenue would have been to sponsor the companies going after IA for copyright infringement as a result of them loaning out unlimited digital copies of books without DRM.

          • @[email protected]
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            This is a very valid point, yet companies do shady stuff all the time and some even get caught via subpoenas and such. Nintendo can do it in a way that will never be noticeable on their books for sure.

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    Also design documents like the dude that mated with an octillery lol. The concept of people and pokemon breeding was still referenced in sinoh, but in a way tamer way.

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        I know you’re being downvoted, but I had the same thought. I see more outcry over nintendo than other companies. Yes, Nintendo has done bad things, but if I were to go back and browse Reddit I feel like the level of hate on Lemmy is much higher. I have to assume it’s due to the open source nature of Lemmy and it’s ideals.

      • pancakes
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        That’s like whining that everyone hates Blizzard or Ubisoft because of some hive mind mentality. Could it be that maybe it’s just a commonly hated company based off their unethical actions over the last 10+ years?

        • @[email protected]
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          No, if more than two people are mad at something, it’s because of the hive mind or Russian trolls.

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          Here’s the difference though: most people outside of Lemmy don’t care about Nintendo’s copyright lawsuits enough that it’s the only thing they talk about whenever they hear the name. The fact that every comment expresses the same thing is the part that feels like a hive mind. Some criticism of a large corporation is one thing, but how strongly Lemmy holds that opinion feels cultish. Blizzard’s leadership protects sex abusers and Ubisoft has had a work culture many describe as nightmarish for decades. Seeing Nintendo put on that level for something not even unique to them makes me think some of you don’t know what nuance or perspective are.

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            I disagree. Nintendo isn’t just some company that has legal beef and comparing their shitiness with Blizzard’s is like comparing apples to oranges.

            Nintendo is a litigious bully and patent troll that has a long, long list of hurting the fans that love their games. They don’t just settle for cease and desists, they historically ruin people’s lives (see Gary Bowser). What feels even worse about Nintendo is the complete misaligned of their product/ brand vs. how they treat fans. You can point to similar companies like Disney and I say that yes, I would happily cheer on any misfortune that comes to them with the same fervor as Nintendo.

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              comparing their shitiness with Blizzard’s is like comparing apples to oranges.

              That’s… what I said.

              My point is supposed to be that Lemmy acts as a though they’re the devil, when in reality they’re just the regular amount of corporate shitty. All of what you said is true, and I’m not trying to convince you it isn’t. It just feels surreal how every comment in here is the same, like it’s the same person behind every username. I get no sense of individuality here, ya know ?

              • pancakes
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                But that whole argument follows the logical fallacy “whataboutism” to downplay X because Y and Z also do bad things. Just because you perceive something to be in line with a standard baseline of corporate shitiness doesn’t mean it’s not worth criticizing.

                As for individualism, it’s no secret that lemmy is somewhat left leaning which contributes to the general vibe. From my experience there is a lot more nuance and depth to the discussions that happen here when factoring in population size compared to other similar areas of the internet.

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        Yes, that’s nice and all…but have you tried typing out “Fuck Nintendo” in a comment?

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    Ive no interest but hopefully there are torrents soon for those who are interested.

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      It’s a huge deal for hardcore fans, but I am overall against these practices, since they are just illegal, period.