Maybe, but you are missing a point too. Even if it was a mistake to create Israel in hindsight (the world was very different just after 1945), the fact is that there are millions of people who live there, call the place home and will do anything to keep what they have.
Good luck “making them disappear” by basing all your reasoning on dismissing them as zionists and a settler state who cannot possibly feel like they truly belong there.
The best you can get is a palestinian state and expulsion of settlers from the West Bank, but for that you need assurances that Iran or anyone else won’t be placing missiles 20km away from any major Israeli city, which anyone who thinks like you will never be able to guarantee, because of what you believe.
Now compare that to russia, largest country on Earth, with infinite resources, enough nukes to destroy every major capital, huge strategic depth (less than the US, more than most countries) acting like they are the victim against a country that committed the crime of not submitting to their influence and then annexing 5 Israels’ worth of their land.
They can keep living there, but if they want to live in peace they’ll have to accept that their whole existence in that land is based on the colonization and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and that their privilege exists through apartheid. And they have to accept to give all of this up and live together with Palestinians, compensate them for their losses, give back what belongs to them.
I’m not talking about what I personally demand, I get nothing out of this. I’m talking about what it takes for them to be able to live in peace.
If Russia takes over parts of Ukraine and colonizes them, they won’t ever be Russian and any resistance against the colonizers as it is carried out now legitimately by Ukrainians will forever remain legal, until they are free again.
In that sense, it doesn’t matter for how long Israel is colonizing Palestine, it will forever remain wrong and resistance will remain legitimate until Palestinians are free again. Israelis should be able to remain there, but only under the outlined conditions.
Now, assume there would Russians that live for 75 years in Ukrainian, colonized territory and continue their genocide of Ukrainians? Will you consider them native to that territory? They might live there in the 3rd generation. What would you do with them if that territory would be free again?
Maybe, but you are missing a point too. Even if it was a mistake to create Israel in hindsight (the world was very different just after 1945), the fact is that there are millions of people who live there, call the place home and will do anything to keep what they have.
Good luck “making them disappear” by basing all your reasoning on dismissing them as zionists and a settler state who cannot possibly feel like they truly belong there.
The best you can get is a palestinian state and expulsion of settlers from the West Bank, but for that you need assurances that Iran or anyone else won’t be placing missiles 20km away from any major Israeli city, which anyone who thinks like you will never be able to guarantee, because of what you believe.
Now compare that to russia, largest country on Earth, with infinite resources, enough nukes to destroy every major capital, huge strategic depth (less than the US, more than most countries) acting like they are the victim against a country that committed the crime of not submitting to their influence and then annexing 5 Israels’ worth of their land.
They can keep living there, but if they want to live in peace they’ll have to accept that their whole existence in that land is based on the colonization and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and that their privilege exists through apartheid. And they have to accept to give all of this up and live together with Palestinians, compensate them for their losses, give back what belongs to them.
I’m not talking about what I personally demand, I get nothing out of this. I’m talking about what it takes for them to be able to live in peace.
If Russia takes over parts of Ukraine and colonizes them, they won’t ever be Russian and any resistance against the colonizers as it is carried out now legitimately by Ukrainians will forever remain legal, until they are free again.
In that sense, it doesn’t matter for how long Israel is colonizing Palestine, it will forever remain wrong and resistance will remain legitimate until Palestinians are free again. Israelis should be able to remain there, but only under the outlined conditions.
Now, assume there would Russians that live for 75 years in Ukrainian, colonized territory and continue their genocide of Ukrainians? Will you consider them native to that territory? They might live there in the 3rd generation. What would you do with them if that territory would be free again?