• @Jimbo
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    473 months ago

    Yeah I respect vegans, and applaud them for their life choices. I’m not in a position to, or willing at this point to become a vegan, but I looked at their community… Mostly insults when referring to any meat eater. Yeah, I respect them a fair bit less now.

      • ObliviousEnlightenment
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        We really dont though. It is simply not realistic to fight for an ethic that requires the overwhelming majority to be hyperrational in their ethics. Human nature tends toward cruelty, and Ive yet to see a vegan have recourse for that.

        Setting aside the whole plants feel pain too bit

        • @Beaver@lemmy.ca
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          33 months ago

          People are cruel often because of the systems they’re raised in. I could show you many instances where kindness is punished in order to maintain the status quo of hierarchical systems. Humans can be much more ethical if we chose to be.

          Plant react to stimuli however they do not have the nervous system to process pain like the way cows and pigs do.

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            And yet people default to those systems and have since the agricultural revolution.

            As for plant stimuli, who are you to say that doesn’t constitute pain? They sure communicate it to those around them, cut grass smell and all that. Does an ant not feel pain because it mostly just responds to and sends out pheromones? Bit of a “my red is your blue” argument you’re making.

            • @Beaver@lemmy.ca
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              23 months ago

              By eating plant-based you reduce the amount of plants that are grown for human consumption since you skip the farm animals completely “if you’re so concerned about plants feeling pain”

              You wouldn’t kick a person and justify that logic saying “but plants feel pain every time you walk on grass”