This has been a doozy of a year. And it’s the best year so far blah blah. So how are you all coping? Does it hit anyone else like a bolt of lightning that probably I - we - won’t die of old age?

  • @safesyrup@lemmy.hogru.ch
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    I don‘t. I‘m accepting that i, as an individual, will not be able to impact it and so i‘m pretty much going with it. Humanity will survive, thats for sure but i make sure to make the most of it in the time where it‘s still bearable.

      • @rbesfe@lemmy.ca
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        4 months ago

        Some humans somewhere will survive. We’re the most adaptable and intelligent species on the planet

        • @rustyfish@lemmy.world
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          64 months ago

          We’re the most adaptable and intelligent species on the planet

          Which makes all the other life on earth really sad if you think about it. /s

          It’s easy to fall into doomerism, but the truth is we are incredible in taking immediate dangers head on. We just happen to be shit tier in doing something against anything vague in the future. A human TPK, without tapping into SciFi, is out of the question.

        • @dwindling7373@feddit.it
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          14 months ago

          We are the most intelligent, not the most adaptable by a long shot.

          That also doesn’t guarantee anything, we are smart not capable of impossible feats of magic. If the situation is irreversible that’s what it is and you die. The end.

      • @saltesc@lemmy.world
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        14 months ago

        Nah. It’s only been around a very, very short time and it won’t remain much longer despite probably being one of the longer stints the planet’s seen of life so far. We should still get to punch MAN into the high score screen and be seen by other players later on, like we saw with DNO.

    • @BastingChemina@slrpnk.net
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      I think I’m on an accepting phase too.

      I’ve been through a lot personally and emotionally since I started reading about collapse 9 years ago.

      I had a look at this publication a few years ago, it put me in a rough place for a few days.

      Recalibration of limits to growth: An update of the World3 model

      https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/22b9ba56-4ef1-49a6-8587-887bd74a0701.jpeg

      Humanity will survive I’m certain of it, however our thermo industrial civilization will not and most of the people currently living in the planet will not.

      It will happen whatever I personally do.

      The best I can do now is to find ways to have the happiest life I can using as little ressources as possible for my family, my community (neighbors, friends …) and me. It’s a process that forces us to reassess a lot of things we were doing but it is fascinating.

      Practically it means finding ways to lower our monthly expenses, try to consume local as much as possible and learning a lot of new techniques…

    • LustyArgonianOP
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      -34 months ago

      I am educated in science and I do not think humanity will survive, no. Most megafauna will probably die out. There are ~10 planetary boundaries and we’ve crossed a lot of them. Earthquakes and volcanoes will start picking up. AMOC collapse could be as soon as 2025.

      • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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        34 months ago

        AMOC collapse could be as soon as 2025.

        No. I also read that. There was a prediction that AMOC collapse might be inevitable by 2025 and take a couple centuries to happen.

        We have pretty good evidence the currents are slowing, but no real data to predict if and when it might stop. A couple researchers made a prediction that is not currently accepted by the field. It’s just pretty dire, but would affect a few generations from now even if true

        • LustyArgonianOP
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          14 months ago

          No, it won’t take a couple of centuries to happen, you misread. The collapse will most likely happen before 2050 according to new research which speeds up the timeline on the old research. The various environmental fields do actually agree on this and it’s accepted.

          The impacts of an AMOC collapse would leave parts of the world unrecognizable.

          In the decades after a collapse, Arctic ice would start creeping south, and after 100 years, would extend all the way down to the southern coast of England. Europe’s average temperature would plunge, as would North America’s – including parts of the US. The Amazon rainforest would see a complete reversal in its seasons; the current dry season would become the rainy months, and vice versa.

          That means the collapse will happen, with immediate consequences as well as consequences that won’t stabilize for over 100 years, not taking into account other destabilizing forces. Like can you read?

      • @aidan@lemmy.world
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        14 months ago

        Then you should recall that some of the largest megafauna ever lived for tens of millions of years at much higher temperatures(and therefore sea levels)

        • LustyArgonianOP
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          At higher temps that changed over thousands of years gradually. This is not that. And that’s even if “high temp” was the ONLY planetary boundary being crossed. It is not. There are numerous SIMULTANEOUS extinction events happening. And we know megafauna isn’t surviving this time because we are in the middle of a major extinction event already. Millions of sea life and millions and millions of birds and insects are dead already, from being boiled alive in the ocean to starvation to pollution to bird flu.

            • LustyArgonianOP
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              14 months ago

              Individual unfit species like ALL birds and ALL insects and ALL sea life and ALL fish? Not including ALL corals and ALL trees (forest fires). Lol what’s left, really? In terms of biomass, that’s like, most of it.

              That we are in an extinction event is widely known in the scientific community.

              https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2023/09/human-driven-mass-extinction-eliminating-entire-genera

              ^There, read up. Sorry to break the news to you.

              • @aidan@lemmy.world
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                24 months ago

                like ALL birds and ALL insects and ALL sea life and ALL fish?

                Where does it say that???

                Not including ALL corals and ALL trees (forest fires).

                Coral life is dying for the most part, but not everywhere

                Global forest area loss has significantly slowed, and seems to be continuing to go down

                Wildfires are not a significant risk to global forest coverage.

                Annual wildfire area is declining year over year, and is overwhelming a risk to savanna, shrublands, and grasslands

                • LustyArgonianOP
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                  -14 months ago

                  What I mean is that ALL species in those categories are affected. It’s not 1 or 3 species, it’s affecting literally every species across those Phylla. Your claim was that is was a few unfit species. It’s not, it’s all the species.

                  Several tree species in the US are undergoing extinction due to forest fires, including the Redwoods: https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/08/23/extinct-tree-species-sequoias/

                  The coral thing you posted is kinda laughable, sorry to be rude when you’re facing total annihilation of most life on this planet, but I have been chuckling about that for a couple of minutes. https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/noaa-confirms-4th-global-coral-bleaching-event

                  “From February 2023 to April 2024, significant coral bleaching has been documented in both the Northern and Southern Hemispheres of each major ocean basin,” said Derek Manzello, Ph.D., NOAA CRW coordinator.

                  “Climate model predictions for coral reefs have been suggesting for years that bleaching impacts would increase in frequency and magnitude as the ocean warms,” said Jennifer Koss, director of NOAA’s Coral Reef Conservation Program (CRCP).

                  The 2023 heatwave in Florida was unprecedented. It started earlier, lasted longer and was more severe than any previous event in that region.

                  NOAA made significant strides to offset some of the negative impacts of global climate change and local stressors on Florida’s corals, including moving coral nurseries to deeper, cooler waters and deploying sunshades to protect corals in other areas.

                  (Do you see how NOAA was unable to fix the root cause of bleaching at any level? This is our governments failing us)

                  Global forest area LOSS has slowed. Meaning how much we are losing is going down, but we are still losing it.

                  https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/record-breaking-wildfires-occurred-northern-hemisphere-2023-new/story%3Fid=103169036

                  Boreal forests in regions all over the world have been experiencing the worst wildfires in recorded history in 2023, according to new research.

                  The total wildfire emissions for 2023 is estimated to be almost 410 megatonnes, the highest on record for Canada by a wide margin, according to the Copernicus Atmosphere Monitoring Service dataset, which provides information on the location, intensity, and estimated emission of wildfires around the world. The previous annual record was set in 2014 at 138 megatonnes of carbon.

                  It isn’t even close to the end of 2024 fire season so I gave an article from 2023.

                  • @aidan@lemmy.world
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                    24 months ago

                    What I mean is that ALL species in those categories are affected.

                    Effected yes, going extinct? No.

                    We are specifically talking about if all life will be wiped out.

        • LustyArgonianOP
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          14 months ago

          I have taken a variety of science classes, especially in biology but also in chemistry, engineering, and physics, at undergrad and masters level at multiple decent universities.

        • LustyArgonianOP
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          14 months ago

          Lol no you’re the poopy-butt!

          Do you see how silly ad hominems are? Do you want to talk about something substantial? Or would you like to continue your tantrum because you don’t think the same as I do?