• @djsoren19
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    People aren’t seeing this for the real precursor it is. People are getting emboldened now. There will be more events like this.

    • Todd Bonzalez
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      I’m honestly worried about tonight. Saturday night, plenty of places where people gather, and a lot of extremists are just waiting for a moment for escalation that they can exploit.

      Attempting to take the life of the party leader during an election is going to push some people over the edge.

      I honestly give it a 50% chance that there’s some sort of mass casualty event in the next 12 hours related to this. I fucking hope I’m wrong, or that the odds are somehow in our favor, but I’ve run out of optimism.

      • @TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world
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        I don’t. They might commit more hate crimes, but mass shooters usually do it because they’re demoralized and feel powerless. Trump supporters are the opposite rn. The shooter rolled a natural 1 for agility and Trump rolled a critical success for luck. It couldn’t have gone better for him.

        • @Wilzax@lemmy.world
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          The DC for the shot was much higher than you think. He rolled a combined 24 when the DC was 25.

          If he rolled a 1 he would have been shot dead before getting a shot off at all. Instead, he grazed the target’s ear from over 100 feet away. That took skill.

      • @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net
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        344 months ago

        I’m far less concerned about emboldened supporters than I am about the likely backlash by the state. Events like this are always taken as justification for more harsh oppression of the people. Also, Biden now has to make statements sympathetic to Trump. This couldn’t have gone worse - we get the blowback from an attempt, and he’s able to ride this to more popularity.

        Assassination isn’t the way, folks. I know you’re hurting, I know you’re disempowered by the electoral system, but Trump and Biden aren’t the core of the problem. You can’t cut the head off because it’s not a snake, it’s a hydra. The way to beat this system is to build alternatives and wean people off of their dependence on it, and deprive it of victims. You have to starve the beast.

        • @Jumpingspiderman@lemm.ee
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          144 months ago

          Taking out the fascist figureheads does nothing about the ideology and forces behind the fascism. Make being a Nazi something to be ashamed of again.

        • @akakunai@lemmy.ca
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          The way to beat this system is to build alternatives and wean people off of their dependence on it, and deprive it of victims.

          And how do you propose we do this considering the only way the system can have alternatives is if the system allows for alternatives which (spoiler) >!it won’t!<.

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                No worries, a lot of people are stuck in hierarchical realism. We’re programmed for it from the moment we begin school or earlier if we had authoritarian parents. It’s nobody’s fault if they haven’t yet imagined a future without hierarchy.

                Edit: It’s also nice to get a genuine reply back, so thanks.

          • @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net
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            84 months ago

            He’s already made those statements and his campaign has ceased all outgoing communications. He doesn’t have to, but he’s a liberal, so he’s not going to let an opportunity to lose pass him by.

      • @Semicolon@lemmy.world
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        I honestly give it a 50% chance that there’s some sort of mass casualty event in the next 12 hours related to this.

        Given that there is more mass shootings in USA than days in a year, I think this ship has already sailed…

        • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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          There’s a difference between a mass casualty event and the technical definition of a mass shooting. One is easily met by gangs doing a drive by. The other requires multiple emergency rooms, triaging people, and calling up neighboring counties for more resources.

          I’ll leave you to figure out which one is a loaded political term and which one is the thing that gets 48 hours of close coverage on the news.

          • @Semicolon@lemmy.world
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            Seems like only in America “political terms” are loaded with actual bullets and regularly shoot bystanders in schools, nightclubs, malls and other public spaces.

      • @Jumpingspiderman@lemm.ee
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        114 months ago

        It will be more than 12 hours before it happens. But that’s small consolation. Once political violence is in the mix it can very quickly spiral out of control

      • @FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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        I think years of pushing for laws to make it legal to run over protesters in their pavement princesses is going to lead to a lot more road rage incidents. Idiots are already emboldened by putting on that red cap, now they have a vehicle too.

        I hope this is quickly exposed as a poorly planned inside job, but even then it won’t matter to the Base. Y’all Qaeda has moved into full on terrorist demagogue territory.

    • @Jumpingspiderman@lemm.ee
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      Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. Also the SS did not do their job. Before the attempt on Trump, people in the crowd were pointing out that guy in camouflage on the roof of that building, yet the secret service/law enforcement did not respond. And the counter sniper waited until the perp took numerous shots to respond.

      • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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        USSS.

        The acronym is USSS.

        Some of his detail might wish they were SS but we’re not there… Yet.

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        Yeah, weird how a registered Republican sniper was given all the time in the world to get into a sniper nest with eyewitnesses but was then shot to death immediately after firing.

      • Was just talking to my Dad about this, he was saying from what he heard (he watches more news than I do) the local law enforcement basically said, “Well, he was outside the perimeter, so there wasn’t really anything we could do,” as their explanation for how it happened.

        It’s going to be interesting to see this whole investigation play out and what comes up for motives and such.

        • Wugmeister
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          44 months ago

          I love how liberal news outlets are baffled why a registered republican would shoot Trump. Don’t care what the more conservative outlets think, I’ll hear about it later

    • Ioughttamow
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      164 months ago

      I wonder how the narrative will change if it turns out it was a victim/relative of his (rape or fraud/failure to pay)

    • @fxt_ryknow@lemmy.world
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      I think you’re right. I think this is going to cause an increase on events like this for sure. Trumps base is going to want to send a message.

    • @Etterra@lemmy.world
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      I’m honestly shocked that it took this long.

      I can’t wait until we find out if was an extra spicy MAGA lunatic who thought his holy leader who flip-flopped on the guy’s one favorite issue.