• @[email protected]
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    Impossible burgers cooked right on the skillet are pretty damn good, imo. And easy. I’m no vegetarian but we keep them in our weeknight rotation.

    Edit: Connect is messing up and I can no longer see some comments below. The study you cite, SMCF, uses the Nova classification system to define ultra-processed foods, meaning that category contains “soft drinks, sweet or savoury packaged snacks, confectionery; packaged breads and buns; reconstituted meat products and pre-prepared frozen or shelf-stable dishes.” This gives you no information on Impossible burgers’ impact on cardiovascular disease, it only gives you a trend among people who eat all of the above. I would suspect the reality is Impossible meat contributes to CVD slightly more than straight-up vegetables and significantly less than red meat.

    • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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      312 days ago

      That’s fine, just remember they’re junk food and not the health food people seem to think they are.

      • swim
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        They have more protein, fiber, and iron than beef.

        Red meat consumption has been shown to increase risks of heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and cancer, full stop.

        I don’t know what a “health food” would be, but I would probably classify them as foods that are healthier alternatives to foods that are proven bad for your health. Which is what “Impossible” etc. are.

        • Karyoplasma
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          Health food is anything that isn’t processed to hell and back.

          Impossible is just alternative junk food. Like vapes are for cigarettes. Healthier still means crap. I’d probably just use mushrooms or tofu as a patty if I wanted an alternative to beef.

          • swim
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            Unfortunately, a lot of people are not well-informed about what “processed” food constitutes, to begin with.

            According to the Department of Agriculture, processed food are any raw agricultural commodities that have been washed, cleaned, milled, cut, chopped, heated, pasteurized, blanched, cooked, canned, frozen, dried, dehydrated, mixed or packaged.

            As such, most of our diet is processed food, and there’s nothing wrong with that. If there are particular ingredients that have been added in the processing of any consumer product that are themselves bad for your health, I would definitely encourage abstinence from that product.

            While vaping is monumentally safer for one’s health than cigarette smoking, both are still a needless introduction of potential harm to one’s health, I agree.

            But we must eat food, and the harm from that food being vaguely “processed” versus the harm from it containing ingredients certainly known to contribute to stroke, heart disease, cancer, and diabetes just isn’t a worthwhile comparison.

              • swim
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                No, it does not.

                The definition by The Global Panel on Agrigulture and Food Systems for Nutrition of “Ultra-Processed Foods” is contingient on those foods being depleted in dietary fiber, protein, various micronutrients, and other bioactive compounds.

                While the oreos you’re using in other examples would probably fit that definition, the alternative meats we’re discussing don’t, as they are “processed” to include those constituents.

                  • swim
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                    511 days ago

                    And?

                    Your wikipedia links don’t make an assertion. The one on UPF does remind you, though, that

                    Some authors have criticised the concept of “ultra-processed foods” as poorly defined

                    The crux of this learning moment for you shouldn’t be about definitions, but the relative “healthiness” of vegan food products.

                    It’s clear you began with a preference to paint with a broad brush these meat substitute products as “junk food,” and you have the opportunity to recognize they aren’t as obviously unhealthy as you first thought.

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        Who literally thinks they’re a health food? I’ve never met someone in real life that’s told me that.

        • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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          You’ve never heard people say they’re made from plants so they are healthy?

          It’s usually the same people who talk about their nerds or potato chips being gluten free or their Oreos vegan.

      • @[email protected]
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        They’re not really a junk food. They’re not as healthy as eating straight-up vegetables, but they’re definitely not junk food.