Although it does not mention any vegan variation, there is a wikipedia article about the “completos”.

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    36 months ago

    However, it can potentially taste more like real meat than plants, seeing as, well, it is real meat, just assembled differently.

    The biggest problem with meat substitutes is texture, which is how it is assembled. Only a few have come close, or can replicate cheap cuts of meat.

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      36 months ago

      That’s just a current problem. There’s no reason to assume it won’t also be resolved eventually.

      Also, mixing plant matter into meat products is nothing new. For example, most meatballs have breadcrumbs in them.

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        26 months ago

        Mixing breadcrumbs into meatballs doesn’t undo the texture of the meat itself, and different kinds of meats have different textures. Turkey, beef, and chicken meatballs all have different textures for example. The structures in the meat also change as they are cooked.

        It is like how califlower rice isn’t the same as regular rice, and there are a bunch of different types of rice. There is just a lot of complexity that means substitutes are always going to be a little off compared to their inspiration and to be honest that should be embraced and leaned into as an alternate instead of a replacement. Like a bean burrito compared to a beef or chicken burrito, they are all burritos but each one is their own thing.

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          6 months ago

          I can agree that there will always be subtle variations in textures of different substances, but I can guarantee you that we can affect the texture of a mixed product by altering the ingredients.

          I’ve been managing restaurants for decades, with a few Italian places under my belt with Michelin star chefs. One restaurant group featured a rotating list that always had at least a dozen different meatballs.

          I’ve seen them tweak all kinds of recipes, with all kinds of meats and grains. Beef, chicken, pork, lamb, goat, venison, even fuckin gator (which was Delicious!). I’ve also sold eggplant, chickpea, spinach, Beyond, Impossible, all kinds of shit in ball form.

          I’ve seen these chefs tweak a recipe that uses the same volume of meat, crumbs, and other ingredients, to yield significantly different textures and flavors, just by playing with how they prep those ingredients. How finely they dice/chop/prep the same amount of an ingredient affects the texture.

          How they prep the crumbs matters. What bread do they use, what’s it made of, how it was cooked before it crumbled, how finely it was crumbled, what seasonings were used that will bind with the fats and proteins from the meat.

          All of this matters and all of it affects the flavor and texture. This isn’t just cooking, it’s materials science. Give it a little more credit.