• @interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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    -387 months ago

    This is the lesson I get from the movement. “States hold us hostage a gunpoint and would really really like us to give them permission, but make no mistake, step out of line and you’re dead. For your own good of course !” It’s like someone asks you permission, for something they were going to do anyway, but it makes them feel better if you say yes.

    • @BakerBagel@midwest.social
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      827 months ago

      SovCits are just selfish assholes that want all the benefits of living in society without any of the obligations. They want to use roads, have nice things, relax, and have plenty of food, but they don’t want to pay for them or contribute to their upkeep. That’s why they are always trying to worm out of oaying child support, not pay for traffic violations, get out of their sewer bills, and other anti-social behavior.

      • If bro was living on a commune and he forgot what happens when you call them murder pigs to their face it’d be one thing, but something tells me he got mad because his stupid plate he bought on the Internet got him pulled over.

          • @Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            77 months ago

            ‘Sovereign citizen’ shot, killed during exchange with Harris County deputies | Houston Public Media

            Classic misunderstanding. The corporation in his name has two felony warrants. This individual is simply being prosecuted by mistake and without consent. I’m sure he mailed the forms in triplicate with the horizontal red ink to confirm.

          • @jkrtn@lemmy.ml
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            37 months ago

            Are those continental warrants, or were they issued from a maritime courtroom? (You can tell by the fringe on the flag in the courtroom.)

      • @interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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        -67 months ago

        This sounds like “if you don’t like capitalism, why do you have a cell phone and BUY food ?”

        Some people it seems would orefer if there were nine if that. That it is an intolerable imposition on them to be forced to support all that with no real say in the matter and no possibility of escape.

        I feel it boils down to “if you don’t like it, go live on Mars”

        • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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          17 months ago

          No, it does not sound like that. Not at all.

          The clothing I am wearing I am confident was made by children in Asia. I would really rather this not be the case. I can’t afford clothing not made in sweatshops. I can be very much against sweatshops and at the same time not have a way around them. This is not the same as refusing to pay child support or a speeding ticket.

        • This sounds like “if you don’t like capitalism, why do you have a cell phone and BUY food ?”

          Well, why do they? The cell phone uses private and public infrastructure to be transported and operated, which they don’t contribute to, and these sovcits are gung-ho on private rights and all that, so why should a private company like Verizon have to allow them to use their wireless or internet networks?

          And unless they walk across the air to get to the store to buy food, all of that was transported via public infrastructure (roads, trains, ships, etc), of which they would also need to utilize to get their food. Again, none of which they want to contribute to.

          Some people it seems would orefer if there were nine if that. That it is an intolerable imposition on them to be forced to support all that with no real say in the matter and no possibility of escape.

          No one is stopping them from checking out of society and living in the woods or whatever. Again, you don’t get the benefits of the social contract and then decide you’re special and none of the obligations are applicable to you, personally.

          Life’s not fair and it sucks, get over it.

          I feel it boils down to “if you don’t like it, go live on Mars”

          No, again, they’re welcome to live in the woods or wherever. There’s no magic combination of words or make believe forms that gets you out of taxes or alimony or to get a house for free or whatever other nonsense these sovcits are coming up with.

          It’s pure entitlement on their part, that they’re somehow more specialer than the rest of humanity who also didn’t choose to be here and also had no say in the capitalist hellscape we all get to live in.

    • @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      247 months ago

      There are no “lessons” from the “movement”. It’s ignorant hillbillies who don’t know how government works, who deal with ignorance via anger, and express their anger violently like any ogre.

      • @WamGams@lemmy.ca
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        77 months ago

        I"m glad somebody else finds it odd that so many here describe themselves as leftists yet seem to do nothing but sympathize with right wing rhetoric.