min-maxing in online games promotes an environment of elitism that forces anyone who plays with the min-maxer to conform to a very narrow play-style; this by-default limits gameplay options for other players, and often leads to ridicule and negative experiences when the non-min-maxer does not have the “perfect build for tanking Odin” or whatever.
min-maxers are boa constrictors wrapped around innocent little field mice. the mice just want some cheese but the snakes are eating them alive and i am the mongoose
stop min-maxing. start max-mining.
discuss.
i never thought i’d see ragnarok reference in lemmy. i always go back to that game once every 5 yearish. they really dont make games like that nowadays.
imo min maxing only starts as a problem when you can share your build to the masses, we dont really like seeing something done for less than the absolute max efficiency. even in games that dont have much build (ffxiv for example) people still blacklist certain jobs or ‘build’ even though it only have like couple minutes of difference between clear times. sites like fflog or wow equivalent are cancer.
on the other hand. if you make every silly build viable it makes the game really easy and may not cater to many people.
imo the solution might lie in other aspects of the game like social and other unorthodox content, but im not sure if any dev is willing to make such a risky system.
ffxiv does a decent job at limiting this type of player behavior in that the director has publicly stated parsers/logging are prohibited, enshrined it in the code of conduct, and has been outspoken about his disapproval for parsing culture.
“it’s a tool for bullying … 100% confident in that … if we implement a (parser) we know that there will be group invites like “prove you can do xxxx DPS” and we never want that to happen.”
https://youtu.be/e_i6mjiGerU?si=MMEsI_1xyhoz9HD3