• Noxy
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    352 months ago

    if both are consenting adults it shouldn’t be illegal. maybe there’s benefit to genetic counseling if there’s intent or possibility to have children, but it shouldn’t be illegal with or without that.

    • @[email protected]
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      312 months ago

      There are 8 billion people on this planet now. Surely you can find someone other than your cousin.

      It really shouldn’t need to be illegal, but I guess residents of the volunteer state require a little more incentive to find dates before the holidays, rather than during them.

      • Noxy
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        112 months ago

        wasn’t talking about myself, which shouldn’t need to be pointed out, but here we are.

      • capital
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        Most on Lemmy and other lefty spaces are of the “two consenting adults can do what they want” mind but take an inconsistent turn on this, seemingly because it’s “icky” to them.

        How is that any different than conservatives being anti-gay because it’s “icky” to them?

        • @[email protected]
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          22 months ago

          It’s not because it’s “icky”, it’s because if you both have the same grandma then you only have one snickerdoodle recipe for Christmas cookies, genetically speaking.

          • capital
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            12 months ago

            As stated several times in this thread, the risk of genetic issues is akin to that of a 40+ year old woman having kids.

            It would seem consistent to also ban that if that is your actual issue, right? So, is that what you’re suggesting?

            • @[email protected]
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              12 months ago

              I never called for a ban. I said maybe go out and explore the forest before climbing up the family tree. And it’s my understanding that most women understand the risk of procreating after 40 and typically avoid it.

              But I’m not your daddy. You don’t need my approval to fuck your uncle’s kids.

              • capital
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                12 months ago

                You said,

                It really shouldn’t need to be illegal, but I guess residents of the volunteer state require a little more incentive to find dates before the holidays, rather than during them.

                I took this to mean that those who don’t voluntarily choose to not marry/have sex with their cousins need to be forced not to by law (a ban). Did I misread that?

      • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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        There are 8 billion people on this planet now. Surely you can find someone

        Not really.

        Speaking from a virgin, and not a cousinfucker, perspective.

        ‘There’s someone for everyone’ is such a fucking bullshit platitude.

        • cum
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          -42 months ago

          It’s absolutely true though

            • Jojo, Lady of the West
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              The just world fallacy is about people getting what they deserve.

              That doesn’t seem to really apply to the statistical argument that there are enough people out there, the chance for any given individual to not have any shot is effectively (if perhaps not precisely) zero. Small enough to not be worth considering.

                  • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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                    Really? Then why the fuck everyone keeps saying you’ll find someone?

                    Fuck it. I’m not going to argue with ingenious morons anymore, who are either pretending to be dumb or are actually dumb to understand what I am saying. Bye.

            • cum
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              02 months ago

              I don’t see how that fallacy is relevant here though

      • @[email protected]
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        There are 8 billion people on this planet now. Surely you can find someone who isn’t black

        Same line of reasoning, just 50 years ago.

        We shouldn’t ban consenting adult relationships solely because they are icky.

            • @[email protected]
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              82 months ago

              No, I want you to explain your reasoning, you’re the one who made it. please explain how marrying a black person is just like marrying your first cousin.

              • @[email protected]
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                52 months ago

                There’s nothing objectively wrong with either one. Both have been banned because they gross people out for purely social (bigoted) reasons.

                • @[email protected]
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                  52 months ago

                  Incorrect. One results in higher than normal birth defects that exacerbate over time, and one is perfectly healthy. We, as a society, should try to limit birth defects, no? Are you also in favor of bringing back thalidomide?

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      Genetically, first cousins are fine. It does slightly increase some risks, I think doubles at most for some very low likelihood cases. I don’t know that it’s any more irresponsible than reproducing with someone that has a family history of genetically passed diseases.

      Humans were tribal until very recently, and reproducing with non-immediate relatives was normal. If it were that detrimental, we would not have survived as a species.

      And no, my wife is not remotely related to me.