• @Fal
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    -19 months ago

    with a militia that no longer exists.

    So you’re wrong here. But even if you weren’t, nowhere in the amendment does it say belonging to a militia is a requirement

    ‘American gun culture prevents American fascism’ is not what happened so far. They have a relationship. That’s not it.

    So passing gun control because the black panthers were arming themselves for protection against fascists is a success story for you?

    • @mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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      29 months ago

      It literally says it’s for a militia. And that militia was replaced by the US Army.

      The second amendment is about the state being able to raise an armed posse to defend the state.

      So passing gun control because the black panthers were arming themselves for protection against fascists is a success story for you?

      You lead a rich inner life.

      I am the one pointing out, gun-nut culture doesn’t give a fuck about stopping fascism. Gun-nut culture doesn’t even care about a right to guns, if it’s the targets of fascism who have the guns. Since before I was born, American gun culture has been nigh-inseparable from the fascists you think it’ll stop.

      • @Fal
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        -29 months ago

        It literally says it’s for a militia.

        It literally does not say anything about requiring membership in a militia. Otherwise it would say the right of a militia to keep and bear arms, not the people.

        You lead a rich inner life.

        So just totally ignorant of the history of gun control then?

        I am the one pointing out, gun-nut culture doesn’t give a fuck about stopping fascism.

        Good thing those aren’t the only people who are allowed to own guns then right?

        • @mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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          Militias work like jury duty.

          There is no “membership.” Any man could be called up. It’s a posse, but bigger. And it was BYOG.

          That is literally the only reason the second amendment gives. ‘We need farmers to bring guns when we first-act-of-Mulan them, so don’t go limiting that.’

          They weren’t so you could fight the army.

          They were so you could fight in the army.

          So just totally ignorant of the history of gun control then?

          If you have to pretend ‘fascists abusing the Black Panthers despite their guns does not help your nonsense argument’ means I am denying that fascists abused the Black Panthers, you do not speak English.

          Who is allowed to own guns is a game of what-if. Who does own guns is reality.

          • @Fal
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            -29 months ago

            That is literally the only reason the second amendment gives. ‘We need farmers to bring guns when we first-act-of-Mulan them, so don’t go limiting that.’

            They weren’t so you could fight the army.

            So are you just unaware of how the country was founded? That the citizens did exactly that in order to be free from england? Did the framers just forget about that?

            Who is allowed to own guns is a game of what-if. Who does own guns is reality.

            It’s really not a game of what ifs. It’s a matter of not repeating history, not making things worse and concentrating the power even more in the hands of the fascists

            • @mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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              Idiot troll pretends an army fighting another army is a contradiction.

              Fuck off, old child.

              You have been proven wrong on every single point you’ve tried to make, and not a goddamn word of it gets through your skull, because your worldview depends on not understanding it.

              • @Fal
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                -29 months ago

                You have been proven wrong on every single point you’ve tried to make

                Lol what?

                and not a goddamn word of it gets through your skull

                Yes, because I can read. Like, the original source, the 2nd amendment, heller decision, contemporaneous writings by the founding fathers, other states constitutions with even more explicit verbiage. So I’m the one who doesn’t get it as you beg the fascist government to disarm you. Lol ok

                • @mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                  You don’t know what a militia is and you think the British were fought by, I dunno, some guys.

                  You’ve read things and absorbed only what feels like it validates your worldview. You have no idea why anyone would do anything else. You do not care what words mean.

                  Useless patience vampire.