• @CobblerScholar@lemmy.world
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    749 months ago

    Protest is never peaceful, if it is you’re doing it wrong. It should be non-violent and as respectful as possible but it needs to be disruptive and you can’t be peacefully disruptive

    • @SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Peaceful and non-violent are synonyms….

      You also contradict yourself as well. You say to be non-violent, then you say you can’t be peacefully disruptive… those contradict each other.

      • Snot Flickerman
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        409 months ago

        If me and my fellow protestors block a road, we are being non-violent, but we are being disruptive.

          • Snot Flickerman
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            9 months ago

            …and in 99% of the cases where it stops being “peaceful” it’s because cops come in and violently assault everyone to try to break up the protest.

            I’m really not sure of the point you’re trying to make. Protest can be peaceful, non-violent and disruptive.

          • Hmm I see what the dictionaries are saying but (using an example from above) I think argument exists that:

            If me and my fellow protestors block a road, we are being non-violent, but we are not being peaceful.

            But it’s Friday and no time for argument!

              • Cethin
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                39 months ago

                Peaceful: freedom from disturbance; tranquility.

                It is a disturbance to the system, and it isn’t tranquil. They are not synonyms. Non-violent means you aren’t hurting anyone, peaceful means you aren’t disturbing anything. You can’t be violent and peaceful but you can be non-violent and non-peaceful. Peace is sufficient but not necessary for non-violence.

                • @SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
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                  9 months ago

                  Literally the next definition after that one….

                  not involving war or violence.

                  SYNONYMS…

                  Peaceful literally means non-violent…. Literally defines the bloody term lmfao.

                  • @Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
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                    29 months ago

                    One definition of peaceful is synonymous, and one isn’t. This is exactly why language has so many synonyms, each one is sliiiightly different. Choosing one intentionally instead of another is important.

                    In this instance, “peace” is being defined (not directly, but through context) as status quo, going about your day unhindered. “Violence” is being defined as causing direct physical harm to a person, and possibly property depending on who you ask.

                    With these definitions laid out, it’s easy enough to see a situation that is not violent (no one got hurt at all) and also not peaceful (some people’s days were interrupted) - one person mentioned blocking a road. This is a FANTASTIC example of non-peaceful non-violent protest. No one likes a pedant.

              • I see a lot of other people have responded with examples and argument.

                So I’ll disagree and say the argument falls apart when I don’t argue. (Cause it’s Friday. You ain’t got no job. You ain’t got shit to do. I’m gonna get you high today.)

      • @BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
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        69 months ago

        Non-violent in the context of political action does not exclude property damage and looting. A non violent protest is still disruptive, it’s the entire point