But if you allow criminals to immigrate, give house arrest to assassins and such, never punish anyone for corruption and the rest of the world allows corrupt ex president’s to calmly live in Brussels and pay foreign agencies for social media attacks against political and judicial enemies… That’s what happens when you let the extreme left win (Ecuador)
I’m not sure how you made the jump from “removing rights” to “removing punishments.” Even the U.S. constitution has explicitly protected rights for the convicted and we definitely still have prisons.
I’m just saying it’s VERY real and happening in lots of South American countries that the left (communist) is making it too easy for gangs to explode and abuse jails as their private training camps, since those and other politicians are either blackmailed threatened or paid by narco groups
That is a very drastic slippery slope fallacy. You’re claiming that if convicted criminals have rights, then crime will take over and run the country. You are incorrectly conflating the preservation of rights with the removal of deterrents.
By the way, which South American countries are communist? If you are thinking of Cuba (which is not South American), then they actually use the criminal justice system to suppress rights, which is what this thread is claiming will happen if the rights of the convicted are removed.
Not just rights. Let them have Playstation like back home in Holland.
But not a way to take over charge of the entire penal system and government… Not a joke here, literally what happened in LOT of South middle American countries. NARCOCOMUNISMO
There are so many other problems at the root of stuff like this too.
First question is why do people actually turn to the gangs in the first place? Usually its because the government/society isn’t providing something those people need to survive, and the gang does. Either money or community, typically.
But if you allow criminals to immigrate, give house arrest to assassins and such, never punish anyone for corruption and the rest of the world allows corrupt ex president’s to calmly live in Brussels and pay foreign agencies for social media attacks against political and judicial enemies… That’s what happens when you let the extreme left win (Ecuador)
I’m not sure how you made the jump from “removing rights” to “removing punishments.” Even the U.S. constitution has explicitly protected rights for the convicted and we definitely still have prisons.
I’m just saying it’s VERY real and happening in lots of South American countries that the left (communist) is making it too easy for gangs to explode and abuse jails as their private training camps, since those and other politicians are either blackmailed threatened or paid by narco groups
That is a very drastic slippery slope fallacy. You’re claiming that if convicted criminals have rights, then crime will take over and run the country. You are incorrectly conflating the preservation of rights with the removal of deterrents.
By the way, which South American countries are communist? If you are thinking of Cuba (which is not South American), then they actually use the criminal justice system to suppress rights, which is what this thread is claiming will happen if the rights of the convicted are removed.
Not just rights. Let them have Playstation like back home in Holland.
But not a way to take over charge of the entire penal system and government… Not a joke here, literally what happened in LOT of South middle American countries. NARCOCOMUNISMO
There are so many other problems at the root of stuff like this too.
First question is why do people actually turn to the gangs in the first place? Usually its because the government/society isn’t providing something those people need to survive, and the gang does. Either money or community, typically.
Foreign cartels from Colombia and Mexico came in. The literal FARC supported their campaign…