Because shit just happens sometimes? It sounds more like you’re just upset that the just world hypothesis doesn’t hold up and that it’s not required to for God to exist or not, and again, I state that to have a fit about if he does or not is just missing the entire point.
And also, those people basing their shit actions of “because God said so” would be doing it based on something else, so again, missing the entire point. You’re getting mad about an argument nobody cares about except for getting a kick out of watching you charge the big red scarf instead of tackling the actual issue, the shitty actions, the choice someone makes to knowingly do things that hurt other people.
I get upset when smb. claims that everything is the lords intent and it’s their destiny. This basically is saying like they don’t have free will. Everything they do is predefined.
Religion is a tool to control masses. And as such it has been used to do the worst things in history. Therefore religion should not exist. My opinion.
I mean when the Lord’s intent is that we learn how to choose good for ourselves for no reason but because we recognize its inherent value as the act of choosing good, it kinda does shake out that most if not all random moments of shit and horror and people being able to do horrible things are by intent. Sure doesn’t make such an observer happy, but it would be going according to their overall plan so long as the long arc continues to bend towards justice.
Free will isn’t just compatible with a Creator’s intent, the current state of the world would suggest that for a hypothetical creator of us, it was the entire point.
Organized religion CAN be a tool of mass control, but when Marx called it the opiate of the masses, he was speaking on how it is the only reprieve the working class has from the crush of the capitalist grind.
Spirituality has been an important component of movements of labor solidarity and liberation as much as it’s been a tool of oppression and atrocity, because it’s a tool, it does what the wielder wants it to.
Again we’re at the point where we’re talking about parts of it that aren’t the point though. The point is to be a community that encourages folks to be good to each other, and then individually to understand the value of projecting goodness to the world around you, if you get that without belief, right on man, but for some folks the experience is something that warrants a spiritual connection, and we shouldn’t treat them as less than because that’s what gets them to the food bank or the library volunteer line.
Because shit just happens sometimes? It sounds more like you’re just upset that the just world hypothesis doesn’t hold up and that it’s not required to for God to exist or not, and again, I state that to have a fit about if he does or not is just missing the entire point.
And also, those people basing their shit actions of “because God said so” would be doing it based on something else, so again, missing the entire point. You’re getting mad about an argument nobody cares about except for getting a kick out of watching you charge the big red scarf instead of tackling the actual issue, the shitty actions, the choice someone makes to knowingly do things that hurt other people.
I get upset when smb. claims that everything is the lords intent and it’s their destiny. This basically is saying like they don’t have free will. Everything they do is predefined.
Religion is a tool to control masses. And as such it has been used to do the worst things in history. Therefore religion should not exist. My opinion.
I mean when the Lord’s intent is that we learn how to choose good for ourselves for no reason but because we recognize its inherent value as the act of choosing good, it kinda does shake out that most if not all random moments of shit and horror and people being able to do horrible things are by intent. Sure doesn’t make such an observer happy, but it would be going according to their overall plan so long as the long arc continues to bend towards justice.
Free will isn’t just compatible with a Creator’s intent, the current state of the world would suggest that for a hypothetical creator of us, it was the entire point.
Organized religion CAN be a tool of mass control, but when Marx called it the opiate of the masses, he was speaking on how it is the only reprieve the working class has from the crush of the capitalist grind.
Spirituality has been an important component of movements of labor solidarity and liberation as much as it’s been a tool of oppression and atrocity, because it’s a tool, it does what the wielder wants it to.
Again we’re at the point where we’re talking about parts of it that aren’t the point though. The point is to be a community that encourages folks to be good to each other, and then individually to understand the value of projecting goodness to the world around you, if you get that without belief, right on man, but for some folks the experience is something that warrants a spiritual connection, and we shouldn’t treat them as less than because that’s what gets them to the food bank or the library volunteer line.