I use twitter and I really like the furry art community on there. I also like Mastodon or related ActivityPub services.
Due to recent events lots of people search for alternatives and I feel just very frustrated see all those artists looking for Zucks Threads or Jacks Bluesky when Mastodon is right there, without a chance of a twitter situation ever happening again. They seem to avoid Mastodon like cats avoiding water.
What have we done wrong, and how can we make it better.
I would agree when Mastodon would it not already make it so easy for normies to join.
If you can make a mail account, you can make a mastodon account.
This is really a problem, not just because pawoo exists but some friends of mine really enjoy the japanese drawing community and they are actually all very active on pawoo, which is inaccessible from western mastodon. It leaves a double sour taste, not just because of the disgusting content they allow on there but also because people can not follow accounts they liked on twitter. But Pawoo won’t stop, what they do is not illegal in Japan and the Japanese just do not care what westerners think. They do not care about being de-federated from the world.
But Pawoo should not effect the furry art community, or does it?
It’s not entirely true. I mean, it’s easy to create account on any instance. It’s not easy to understand the concept of fediverse, be “discoverable” as an artist or sometimes even following someone on another instance. That’s why normies would pick something like threads or twitter, and the artists would have to choose the services that are more popular.
The question though, why won’t they use mastodon alongside other services. And to help them use mastodon, developers could create tools that would make it easier to post and read to/from multiple services at the same time, for example twitter + mastodon + threads. But it won’t be easy now to create such an app, because of twitter api costs, so probably won’t happen. Managing another service without big payoff might not be worth their while. Also, it’s what I assume would be the issue, so maybe I’m wrong, not an artist myself
I am not sure if that is actually the issue. Many artists already post on multiple commercial services and it was never seen as a problem.
@Alexmitter @Wander @kitsuneofinari @Mugox
one thing that i heard several times from artists and makers is that they do not want to join Mastodon/Fediverse because “advertising” and “selling” here is prohibited, or they even tried and got rejected
I mean any art account of someone that takes commissions is basically advertising, and any chat with a user could be selling. Where is that prohibited?
@Alexmitter @Wander @kitsuneofinari @Mugox
<i> am not sure, its what i got to hear several times when i tried to invite people on FA or FL to join Mastodon/Fediverse
If they had a better understanding of the platform they’d probably know that such rules depend on the instance you join.
@Wander today i would suggest for example https://mastodon.art/@Curator/110655120117161036
But back in 2022 things might have been too early and we lost the opportunity
I think that this is kind of a pattern. Different rules and de-federation between instances that confuses new users. But how could this pattern be broken.
@Alexmitter @Wander @kitsuneofinari @Mugox seemingly random and unknown de-federation or at least muting between instances confuses still even the old users beeing here for more then 5 years
(currently i am in a situation where i dont know if some 2 persons on meow.social either deliberately ignore my contact attempts since a year, or if they technically never have seen my messages)