Alright, you do have sensible arguments. I based my opinion on the fact that Hamas could be taken down, just like ISIS was. I don’t have a crystal ball telling me if that gonna succeed, as it did with ISIS, or not.
Congratulations you seeded a grain of a doubt in the mind of a Random Internet Stranger, this might as well be counted as victory.
The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, curiously, is still around and still has its labor camps. It’s just doesn’t have any support (that I’ve heard for a while) from international interests, and no-one want to touch it. So yeah, this is an end result that can occur.
The point is not to win over random internet strangers, but to get as many people as possible at the same place in the dialog. Providing support and fair governance to a people to quell unrest is a centuries old COIN method. When we have the resources (in the case of Gaza, we have some that would absolutely help) the question is what the obstructions are getting them to the people so they can breathe easier. That usually comes down to political interests who want them to suffer for spite (we saw that with the George W. Bush administration and anything that looked remotely Arab or Muslim) and those who want them to be angry and violent. Sometimes there’s intersection between these.
Right now, here in the States, hate is deliberately being used to manipulate voters, and at the same time I think we can’t really call ourselves a unified society unless we’re at least trying to cooperate towards mutual benefit. And this informs my own bias.
Alright, you do have sensible arguments. I based my opinion on the fact that Hamas could be taken down, just like ISIS was. I don’t have a crystal ball telling me if that gonna succeed, as it did with ISIS, or not.
Congratulations you seeded a grain of a doubt in the mind of a Random Internet Stranger, this might as well be counted as victory.
The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, curiously, is still around and still has its labor camps. It’s just doesn’t have any support (that I’ve heard for a while) from international interests, and no-one want to touch it. So yeah, this is an end result that can occur.
The point is not to win over random internet strangers, but to get as many people as possible at the same place in the dialog. Providing support and fair governance to a people to quell unrest is a centuries old COIN method. When we have the resources (in the case of Gaza, we have some that would absolutely help) the question is what the obstructions are getting them to the people so they can breathe easier. That usually comes down to political interests who want them to suffer for spite (we saw that with the George W. Bush administration and anything that looked remotely Arab or Muslim) and those who want them to be angry and violent. Sometimes there’s intersection between these.
Right now, here in the States, hate is deliberately being used to manipulate voters, and at the same time I think we can’t really call ourselves a unified society unless we’re at least trying to cooperate towards mutual benefit. And this informs my own bias.