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    This is my post you reacted to:

    You did prove them right, though. It was fine to say a woman is someone with a vagina and a man is someone with a penis in the past and now you consider this hate speech. So, their point is correct. People change the definition of words and if you still use that words you are treated as a bigot and worse.

    Now quote to me please where I, in my post to which you reacted, tried to defend bigotry.

    Especially in which form I said something so bigoted, that it’s okay to call me an asshole, someone with brainrot, a transphobe and someone who defends hate speech.

    You assume all kinds of things about me, from a simple post. And fall into hateful rhetoric simply for me not jumping when everyone was supposed to jump, apparently.

    It’s almost as if this was bait to get someone to say anything you can deliberately get outraged by to then start hurling insults. No matter discussing in good faith or perhaps asking back first. No, you immediately assumed I was a bigot with “centrism brainrot”.

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      Ok, I’ll show you where you defend bigotry. You defend it by trying to misrepresent a bigoted argument as I stated before. You call into question whether or not the argument is bigoted:

      It was fine to say a woman is someone with a vagina and a man is someone with a penis in the past and now you consider this hate speech. So, their point is correct. People change the definition of words and if you still use that words you are treated as a bigot and worse.

      The phrase, “People change the definition of words and if you still use that words you are treated as a bigot and worse.” States that a person is treated as a bigot, not that they are a bigot. You refocus the person called a “bigot” as the victim.

      Worse still, you state that they are called a bigot for simply not using new definitions. The issue isn’t so much that they don’t use new definitions, it’s that they use definitions that justify and reinforce bigotry. They use harmful and hateful definitions, and are thus doing bigoted things. I tried not to essentialize them as a bigot, but I did point out how using that definition is bigoted.

      A person said something bigoted, I pointed out why it was bigoted. In that original response I didn’t even call them a bigot. I said they were helping bigots by using that argument.

      I have also not called you a bigot, just speculated on what you may think. I didn’t even speculate that you’re a bigot, just that you are wrong. If you think I used “hateful rhetoric” by saying you had brainrot, I’m not sorry. People getting called out for defending harmful arguments in the milquetoast way I did isn’t something to be ashamed of.

      You keep positioning people who make or defend harmful arguments as the victim, and I frankly have no more time for it. The victims are the people harmed by these arguments, not the people who get rightly criticized for perpetuating it. I care more about the thousands of trans people who are getting denied lifesaving treatment because of anti trans laws. I care more about the people who get bullied or murdered for being queer. I don’t think you getting downvoted and feeling guilty matters compared to the real harmful ideas you’re protecting.

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        This is such a truckload of virtue signaling. It seems like more and more people jump on this train and it’s borderline fascist. I did make a tongue in cheek comment on how you proved this person correct (something you didn’t even address at all) and you try to frame me because of that comment as someone in the vicinity of bullies and murderes.

        In reality, you are the bullies. Everyone who does not walk on egg shells all the time is a hateful bigot that needs to be stomped out immediately. At the same time, I don’t see you comment on misogynistic memes or any other of the bigotry that’s rife on this site. But dare everyone who doesn’t raise their fist when you say so. They better be ready to be insulted.

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          I’m not going to walk you through why your interpretation of what the original poster said was wrong, I already did. I tired my hardest to explain it to you, and then I speculated as to why you hold the incorrect version of the person’s argument in your mind. You still hold that view in your mind. You failed to grasp my explanation, translating it into insults or personal attacks, probably because reading it accurately might lead you to the conclusion that you were wrong. That what the original poster said wasn’t simply that definitions change, but that they are weaponized unfairly to attack valid perspectives.

          You have insulted me directly far more than I have you. Accusing me of virtue signalling, bullying, and being part of a borderline fascist movement. That last one is especially egregious considering the history of fascists murdering trans people and erasing their history. I also don’t know what bigotry you’re talking about that’s rife on this site. Every time I see bigotry on here, people call it out. People even call out things that are merely insensitive.