• Wertheimer [any]
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      10 months ago

      Before “tankie” became such a popular term the difference was framed as a question of “socialism from above” versus “socialism from below,” as discussed in this Hal Draper pamphlet.

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2910 months ago

        Okay, you’ve described communism as a theoretical state that we as socialist want to arrive at as we resolve the contridictions within society.

        How is this different than what people like me that you call tankies are talking about. What fo you know that we don’t?

        • @[email protected]
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          How is this different than what people like me that you call tankies are talking about. What of you know that we don’t?

          The difference is the support of oligarchic (not communist) Russia in the war against Ukraine, as a lot of hexbear users are advocating.

          • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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            3310 months ago

            Forget about Ukraine for a minute. I want you to explain to me your theory of democratic communism. What’s the theory of change? What does a democratic comminist revolutuon look like? Is there a theoretical basis for these beliefs?

            I’m a marxist leninist, i am someone you would call a tankie. I want you to explain to me you’re version of communism

          • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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            A) What makes you think we think the Russian Federation is “Communist”?

            B) Why do you not also describe Ukraine as an oligarchy when it’s entire reputation for the last 30 years is as one of the most ludicrously corrupt places on Earth?

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        You sound like you heard what communism is through word of mouth in a country with 80 years of genocidal anticommunism

      • Egon [they/them]
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        510 months ago

        And how do you envision that coming about in a world ruled by capitalists that are unwilling to let go of power?

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          110 months ago

          Populist revolt? Nowhere did I say I dont support revolution. But you then need to instate a real democracy

          • Egon [they/them]
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            610 months ago

            And if you instate that “real” democracy in a world that is full of capitalists that will work towards destroying it (as you for example saw with the USSR in its infancy or Nicaragua or Cuba), how do you think your newfound democracy should defend itself?