• queermunist she/her
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    I dunno, do you have nuclear weapons that could cause the apocalypse?

    Countries aren’t people. The scale the work on is much greater.

    • SpicyPeaSoup
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      1511 months ago

      Oh okay, so if I held enough people hostage I can have your stuff? Good to know…good to know…

    • Doug [he/him]
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      1411 months ago

      You’ve got an important word there. Scale.

      Countries aren’t people but they’re made up of them. It wouldn’t take nuclear weapons to annihilate your household.

      Russia has invaded Ukraine’s home and tried to lay claim. Now you’re suggesting they give up what was taken from them to satisfy your desire for peace.

      The analogy the other person used is fair. In another analogy Russia is nothing more than a bully. We’ve long moved past the time where the advice we give is to just give the bully your money so they don’t beat you up and take it anyway.

      • Bloops
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        -111 months ago

        There is no such thing as a society, only individuals and families. Very true Maggie!

        No, countries are qualitatively different from simply “lots of people”

      • queermunist she/her
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        -1411 months ago

        Bullies also don’t have nuclear weapons.

        Stop comparing people to countries. The scale makes it so absurd, because nuclear weapons could end the god damn world.

          • Krause [he/him]
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            Bullies have nukes? Damn, what are parents giving to their kids these days?

          • queermunist she/her
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            -911 months ago

            You were using an analogy where a bully threatens to beat you up and take your money.

            That’s nothing like the current situation. The current situation is a nuclear armed nation is willing to wage an endless war and we’re throwing money and bombs and tanks at the problem trying to make it go away. You’re comparing small scale things to nuclear scale things and it’s really just absurd.

            • @[email protected]
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              611 months ago

              You were using an analogy where a bully threatens to beat you up and take your money.

              No, I wasn’t.

              That’s nothing like the current situation. The current situation is a nuclear armed nation is willing to wage an endless war and we’re throwing money and bombs and tanks at the problem trying to make it go away.

              No, it’s not.

              You’re comparing small scale things to nuclear scale things and it’s really just absurd.

              No, I’m not.

                • Doug [he/him]
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                  411 months ago

                  My quote, not theirs. Also Russia is a bully. Similar to the kind that takes lunch money, but on a much larger scale

                  • queermunist she/her
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                    -811 months ago

                    You can’t just increase the scale and expect things to stay the same!

                    If those nukes are ever touched it’s the end of the fucking world.

          • queermunist she/her
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            -111 months ago

            There’s a gulf of difference between standing up to America (or Russia) vs going to war with them. Duh?

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      611 months ago

      The thing with nukes is that it’s suicide, and they know it. So they just use the threat of it to get whatever they want, in the hopes that the people in charge are like you and will just flop over to their demands whenever they dangle the threat.