• @[email protected]
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    -101 day ago

    Maybe a bit more parenting could have helped.

    No.

    If someone is depressed enough to kill themselves, no amount of “more parenting” could’ve stopped that.

    Shame on you for trying to shame the parents.

    And not having a fricking gun in your house your kid can reach.

    Maybe. Maybe not. I won’t argue about the merits of securing weapons in a house with kids. That’s a no-brainer. But there is always more than one way to skin the proverbial cat.

    On and regulations on LLMs please.

    Pandora’s Box has been opened. There’s no putting it back now. No amount of regulation will fix any of this.

    Maybe a Time Machine.

    Maybe…


    I do believe that we need to talk more about suicide, normalize therapy, free healthcare (I’ll settle for free mental healthcare), funding for more licensed social workers in schools, train parents and teachers on how to recognize these types of situations, etc.

    As parents we do need to be talking more with our kids. Even just casual check ins to see how they’re doing. Parents should also talk to their kids about how they are feeling too. It’ll help the kids understand that everybody feels stress, anxiety, and sadness (to name a few emotions).

    • @[email protected]
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      09 hours ago

      If someone is depressed enough to kill themselves, no amount of “more parenting” could’ve stopped that.

      Parents are supposed to care for their child and look out for them. If you kid gets depressed enough to kill himself and you’re none the wiser at any point, I’d say more parenting is very much needed. We’re not talking about someone that cut contact with everyone and was living on their own, slowly spiralling there. We’re talking about a 14yo kid.

      • @[email protected]
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        46 hours ago

        Look, I get where you and others are coming from. But the thing about depression and suicide is that it’s not a one-size-fits-all thing. It comes in all shapes, sizes, and forms.

        You’d be surprised how many people you might know who are depressed and/or suicidal, but look normal. There is a Grand Canyon sized stigma to being depressed and suicidal, and a lot of people will do everything they can to mask it so that they aren’t a burden to their family and friends.

        I know, because I speak from decades of experience.

    • @[email protected]
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      141 day ago

      They failed to be knowledgeable of their child’s activity AND failed to secure their firearms.

      One can acknowledge the challenge of the former, in 2024. But one cannot excuse the latter.

    • macniel
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      71 day ago

      Yes parenting could have helped to distinguish between talking to a real person and a unmoving cold machine.

      And sure regulations now would not change what happend, duh. And regulations need to happen, companies like OpenAI and Microsoft and Meta are running amok, their LLMS as unrestricted they are now are doing way too much damage to society as they are helping.

      This needs to stop!

      Also I feel no shame, shaming parents who don’t, or rather inadequate, do their one job. This was a presentable death.

      • @[email protected]
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        -11 day ago

        Yes parenting could have helped to distinguish between talking to a real person and a unmoving cold machine.

        Hi, I’m a psychologist. I am not aware of peer-researched papers which reach the conclusion that, for all disorders that involve an unsatisfactory appraisal of reality, parenting is a completely effective solution. Please find sources.