Teenagers have the time to really get good at these games and lack the money to buy lots of games so its natural they would focus on skill based games that you can spend a lot of time in
Yeah I’m not buying a game so the 13 year old mouth breathers can yell racist misogyny at me because I don’t make the game the fulcrum of my existence.
Give me a Metroid where it’s me, alone, vs a hostile world, and my thoughts.
Same, I was tired of having my ass handed to me then being tea bagged by preteens talking shit about my lack of skills and/or my mother. Excuse me for not playing FPSs eight hours every day after school like you, good Sir Acne.
My appetite for PvP dropped off precipitously after college. I just don’t have the time to dedicate to getting good at any game, and every online multiplayer game I’ve ever played is toxic if you aren’t at least decent. I have no interest in a sixteen year old cursing me out because I don’t have the map memorized.
Single player generally also brings in much more flexibility, especially when it comes to things like mods. With my limited free time, if I’m enjoying a game except for thing x, I prefer the ability to remove or diminish that thing x. Also, you have the ability to pause to change laundry loads or whatever.
Mods are big for me. I almost just don’t play in modded games these days, with few exceptions. Not impossible to do that in multiplayer, but it has a whole new dimension of challenge to it.
With kids being able to pause when you have to stop the kids from killing themselves or eachother is usually a plus
My interest in anything online was gone the moment my Destiny group that came together to have fun was yelling at me because I was dying in a raid and laughed about it. Even Rocket League became too serious.
I feel this. There’s enough toxic masculinity and just toxic people in online spaces before you make everything always a competition.
I need another Uncharted style game. I don’t want another always online, micro transaction filled, lootbox earning grindfest filled with people who wish cancer on your mother because you don’t play as well as they think you should
Don’t forget invasive anti-cheat components that can reduce performance, introduce security risks into your kernel, might be spying on everything else for all we know, and still fail to prevent people from cheating.
I don’t play multiplayer because I don’t want to be cussed out by a 6 year old.
I play games to have fun. I’m not trying to prove anything to anyone.
I don’t play multiplayer because I don’t want to be cussed out by a 6 year old.
Or talked to. The younger, the more rude they are in chats.
Lol you’re right
That’s why MMOs are fun because we don’t use voice comms for random people, just text.
Hit them with the “i tapped ya mum”
Co-op is all I care for
Same but have no one to play with :/
What timezone you in?
UTC+2 (Amsterdam NL)
What do you play?
I like rts games like company of heroes and sins of a solar empire, survival games like project zomboid but also games with base building like valheim, rpg’s like baldur’s gate 3. I’m just not a fan of fps games although borderlands 2 was a lot of fun but that was mainly because of the rpg aspect. I also enjoy Stormworks, kerbal space program (sadly single-player), farming sim, it takes two, no man’s sky.
If you like survivals and base building I recommend Grounded, it’s a really well made game and lots of fun
I just played 30min and I love it! Thanks for the recommendation
I mean yeah but Teenagers aren’t people.
They scare the shit out of me
They could care less as long as someone’ll bleed.
Right? They are angry, physically enduring, strong. Luckily they’re also constantly horny and therefore stupid.
Unfortunately, they’re constantly horny and motivated to do stupid things.
“I know my unrequited crush will allow me to have sex with them if just do this really stupid thing.”
There’s a horror movie about a couple harrased by kids during the stay at the lake. Might be right up your alley!
Coincidentally, teenagers are also the reason most gamers prefer single-player games.
This is a fact.
When I was late teens I played vanilla wow, but after adapting to adulthood, the idea of playing with or even talking to people decades younger than I am (with maturity to match age) has absolutely no appeal. I really want to play a lot of the multiplayer games out there, but don’t want to play with a bunch of asshole kids with nothing better to do than be assholes.
Face to face, maybe, because there’s a lot more context and social boundaries and stuff, but honestly I don’t even understand a lot of what they are trying to communicate at this point, and I honestly usually don’t care, so it’s not an appealing proposition at this point. That’s the full whole reason I don’t play ttrpgs anymore; can’t find an adult group and can’t stand to be around a group of 14yo boys.
Right from the start there have been adults only guilds in WoW though.
I just play them exclusively with friends and mute random people that get obnoxious.
That genuinely sounds like a good middle point, unfortunately it isn’t actionable for me as I haven’t any friends with whom to play. My humans have drastically different genre interests than I do, assuming they even game.
As someone who doesn’t play with friends either:
If the games don’t need communication to be good, play em anyway. Go for solo performance and if the team wants to whinge then it’s their fault for being mutable. I give everyone a chance, mute them if they spam or go squeaker, it’s honestly not that common to be an issue these days even in games like COD
It’s a shame, too. I don’t really mind playing with other people, usually PvE, but when you’re just so much more mature than they are the whole dynamic can be grating. PvP though? I’m not sure what’s worse, the shit talkers or the teammate griefers who throw a game for some silly reason.
That said, I met my wife in an MMO and you very much can make genuine connections with strangers on the internet. Just… You know, if you’re hitting 40 and they’re 14, the FBI might want to have a word with you.
I dont mind teenagers, it is the absurd toxic masculinity culture I hate, which isnt really a teenager specific thing in my experience.
I mean, you’re more or less correct although toxic masculinity feels pretty immature, and certainly more common with teenage boys. Given the number of muscle cars nearly running me off the road these days, I certainly agree they’re not all teenagers, though!
Gotta wonder if that guy who just said he slept with your mom on COD was really 30+ year old “alpha male” lol
I agree and I think a salient reframing of your statement is teenagers typically more than anything else want to be treated as adults, to be a teenager is to constantly be observing young adults and attempting to emulate their social behavior. So the question becomes why do we tolerate toxic adult conservative men setting such a cruel and hateful example that teenagers then copy and magnify?
What some teenager screams at you in an online match is just a shrill echo of the serious and dangerous ideologies modern (and not modern) conservatism is explicitly founded on and violently defends the “right” to spew everywhere in every context consequences be damned (the consequences being a feature not a bug).
There’s definitely an aspect of catharsis in showing that kind of person how much better at the video game you are though. I don’t play a lot of PvP but when I do, and everything clicks, I absolutely get it
The only thing that I enjoy more than single player RPGs are co-op RPGs, to this day my favorite gaming experience is playing through the entirety of Tales of Graces f in co-op with my friend, and it’s a shame most of these games don’t even have a couch co-op option, much less an online mode, at least Larian does it with their games.
I mostly play video games to switch off and relax. So generally I play single player RPGs on the easiest setting and just explore the world and the story.
I do occasionally play something like PUBG if I’m after some excitement but I don’t have time to master games like I did when I had no responsibilities or kids!
They needed a study to tell them that?
Pvp games are more likely to leave me feeling angry after a session compared to single player and coop games where I’m more often ending the session happy.
I prefer co-op but the times I can play don’t always line up with the times my friends can play.
My favorite games are things like Destiny, Minecraft, Helldivers, and Terraria, when I have friends to play with.
When playing alone, live service games can be ok, and competitive PvP is about the worst experience out there.
Single player games are often a much better experience than either of those.
I love coop games and so many games seem like they’re perfectly suited for it, but don’t support it. A prime example is the city builder genre. There’s a multiplayer mod for Cities: Skylines but it isn’t perfect. On a bright note, the multiplayer mod for Rimworld is virtually flawless.
I love the stories they single player games had.
We need more asynchronous game mechanics
What is an example of an async game mech?
Death stranding where people built structures for other people in the world is one.
Minecraft servers where you gather resources for your friend and put a sign up with a message.
Anything where you can interact with each other but don’t have to be logged in at the same time.
I always thought the messages left by other players in Dark Souls was such a cool mechanic.
They could be helpful, letting the player know to be wary of danger, or they could be completely disingenuous and trick the player into jumping off a cliff and dying.
I always labored over whether or not to take a leap of faith based on other players’ messages cause it was a toss-up whether they were being helpful or trolling, lol.
SimCity’s cooperative structure building - anything where the group has to earn “points”. PvP asynchronous mechanics are essentially anything where a player can be attacked while offline.
Thanks for the explanation. I’ve only played one game like that, but it is super fun; Neptune’s Pride. It’s free and web based, id highly recommend it.
I feel nothing when playing singleplayer games. It just gives me the feeling of wasting my time. The exception would be platformers or something challenging like cuphead.
I much prefer the grind of getting better at games that have a great feel to them. Like Quake, smash melee, cs or dota. It feels like i can keep improving infinitely
Hey man as long as you have fun.
To me single player is having fun on my own terms at my own pace. There’s nobody to randomly decide the course of the game and no egos I have satisfy to not leave a match.
To me, story-driven games are a bit like reading a book, but with the ability to make decisions.
I also quite enjoy games like Celeste where the sheer challenge is the main appeal.
I enjoy the mechanics of games like Smash or League of Legends, but playing online is always so awful. It always feels like I’m either way better than the other team, or the other team is way better than me. And if there’s any sort of communication (e.g. chat in League) it gets so toxic. But I don’t want to turn chat off because occasionally people actually use it to productively share information.
But even in Smash Bros, where there is no chat and Nintendo turned off emotes in an attempt to reduce toxicity, people still find ways to be toxic.
I’d play against people IRL, but League requires 12 people and in Smash Bros I’m at the uncomfortable place where none of my friends want to play against me because I’m too good, but I’m not good enough to go play in tournaments.
While I still feel like I want to be good at these games, I’ve been trying to stop lately because they just make me feel awful.
I like dark souls :)
