• @tetris11@lemmy.ml
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      Exactly. Is it just a webpage served up with some native UI buttons to make it look more glossy? Are app permissions implemented as separate system users under POSIX? How many apps are written in languages/frameworks running from interpreters, and how many actually touch bare metal? Are app media that use Gallery permissions duplicating data or linking to it?

      No one knows what an app is, the app development frameworks I learned 10 years ago are no longer relevant and have likely shifted to a whole new paradigm. If it looks perplexing to me, I can imagine it looks like magic to non-techies.

      • @Jeremyward@lemmy.world
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        The PWA frameworks are pretty cool. Essentially just system level API hooks which then integrate into a existing React - NextJs - whatever projects. Granted it isn’t touching bare metal like you said but it is a nice level of a abstraction and beats dealing with android studio 🤢

        Edit: I hear Expo is neat but I haven’t used it yet.

        • @evranch@lemmy.ca
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          42 months ago

          beats dealing with android studio

          It’s been years since I went near Android for this reason, I’ve had some decent ideas for stuff I’d like to do on mobile but was so turned off on developing for the entire platform. Maybe I’ll have to take a look at some of the new frameworks.

          My trouble is I would prefer to write in an embedded style C/C++ for the agricultural stuff I want to do, and all this Java/JS stuff and heavy focus on fancy UX is really not my vibe.

        • @theneverfox@pawb.social
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          I’ve used expo, which is really just react native with some helpful tooling around it. It was my first real project with react as well, and all and all I’d recommend it.

          React native is pretty great, but there’s a steep learning curve. Expo has some bugs, and once you get off the beaten path you might have some issues. You always have the option of ejecting to react native or native code, but the expo app is incredible - you can do live updates remotely, the app will just reload with the changes without rebuilding everything

          I’ll probably use it for most apps moving forward

      • JackbyDev
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        42 months ago

        I was thinking the same thing lol. “Do you mean like an apk or a pwa?”

    • Kairos
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      Yeah. What 45 said is technically a true statement… If it was said by a geek or a programmer. With him it’s always surface level.

      • @surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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        312 months ago

        No. I’m context he was saying immigrants must be smart for using apps to cross the border because almost no one knows what an app is.

        Watch the video. He belongs in a home.

        • @barsquid@lemmy.world
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          182 months ago

          The context always makes him look worse. This guy has advanced dementia and it is getting worse by the day.

            • @aesthelete@lemmy.world
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              62 months ago

              The public hates Vance even more than Trump so when they talk about voting for Trump people should remind them that Trump may die in office and then Vance would be their president.

              Somehow, the scrutiny applied to Palin due to McCain’s advanced age hasn’t applied to Vance despite Trump being nearly a decade older than McCain was when he ran.

        • Kairos
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          12 months ago

          I mean I’m all for beliving that humans are smart by default, but that is incorrect.

      • @brbposting@sh.itjust.works
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        62 months ago

        But how does it even make sense? I would have said I was 99% confident he used two apps all the time over the years. First, ex-Twitter, and now his own social-network-which-shall-not-be-named.

        wat

        • Tippon
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          I know a few older people who have smartphones, and while they can use things like Twitter or Facebook on the phone, if you told them that you were installing an app, they wouldn’t know what you meant.

          They’re the type of people who were never interested in computers, and used them as appliances, possibly never needing to install things themselves. As they moved to phones, they either get their kids or the shop to set them up.

          They understand using Twitter on the phone, but don’t really understand the concept of how it works.

        • @LillyPip@lemmy.ca
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          Those aren’t ‘apps’ to him – they’re pictures he presses on his phone that let him do something.

          My theory: he was recently in a conversation with someone about an app he doesn’t use, and they had to explain the concept to him. They probably complimented him when he seemed to understand enough, since he’s surrounded exclusively by sycophants, so in his mind he’s proud to be smarter than most people about this.

          We’ve seen this exact scenario play out before. He’s so predictable.

  • @LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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    I didn’t see what he said, I should hunt myself but can someone re-recommend a way I can see said footage without going on Twitter. If not, I’ll pass on giving their advertisement companies views

  • @Taringano@lemm.ee
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    This happens when the opposite side turns on the propaganda machine on that specific subject (which when Biden was a possibility wouldn’t make sense).

    He’s old and has been for a while, and I’m all for kamala. Just interesting how that flaw was “overlooked” when it was convenient.

    • @HowManyNimons@lemmy.world
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      If he shuffles off this mortal coil he’d leave Vance in charge. I don’t know why more hadn’t been made of this fact.

      • @itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        112 months ago

        Maybe the couchnutter is an attempt to stop further assassination attempts? Prop up a VP that’s even more deranged and unlikable, so people reconsider if it’s worth it to off you?

      • @barsquid@lemmy.world
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        52 months ago

        Everyone who understands that Vance is an inexplicably married incel will already be voting against Donald.

  • @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I know what they are! They’re useless things McDonalds tries to goad you into installing with promises of a free $3 burger so they can sell all your data to everyone who wants it because apps have a higher level of access to it than m.mcdonalds.zip or whatever their shitty website is.

    And some of the ones on F-Droid are actually useful.

  • @MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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    I just can’t imagine Trump using any technology whatsoever. I’m impressed he manages to send tweets off.

  • @Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world
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    62 months ago

    As much as I despise Trump, I don’t disagree. I’m sure he’s saying that for stupid reasons, but most people are way more tech illiterate than they should be. I know bc I used to be tech support

    • @BigPotato@lemmy.world
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      Most people don’t know “what” anything is in that case. Cars? Most people don’t know what a clutch master cylinder is - they just know how to use the car. Most people don’t know what an app is, since they don’t understand the code language it was built in. Sure, they know how to use it but without knowing Java, it may as well be magic. Vaccines! No one knows what they are! There’s no simple explanation so everyone who’s ever used a vaccine has no idea what they are!

      The average person does not have specialized knowledge about anything, even things ubiquitous to modern life.

      Yeah, Trump is technically right here but at the end of the day, I don’t really care if a firefighter knows exactly how every app on their phone works, just as long as they know how to put out fires and maybe rescue cats from trees.

      • @Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world
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        Not to give the orange turd credit here, but I think it’s fairly obvious that Trump isn’t saying that most people can understand the code, but rather he’s saying that most people don’t have an understanding of how much an app can aid the wrong kind of people.

        Yeah, he’s an idiot, and I entirely disagree, but you just went on a whole entire tangent about a position that I neither expressed or hold. Chillax, bro.

    • @Tenniswaffles@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      If you were working tech support of course you’re going to interact with more “tech illiterate” people. That doesn’t mean the “most people” are tech illiterate, you were just dealing with a high volume of them, giving that impression.

  • @Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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    Aren’t immigrants supposed to be using a phone app to contact Kamala and enter illegally in the us or something? If that’s the case, they should be hired to teach “most people” jow too install an app. I hear MacDonald’s have a great one.

  • “Ah man, I forgot my password.”

    “What’s the hint?”

    “‘What is tasty?’”

    “Hmm… Interesting philosophical question there. What is tasty? Is a thing tasty on its own or is it merely how one perceives it? Can anything truly be considered tasty, in an objective way…?”

    “Oh! I remember. Candy. Candy is tasty!”

  • @bleistift2@sopuli.xyz
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    Ask any person above the age of, say, 40 (I’m not looking this up, but in Western countries that should suffice to qualify for ‘most’ pople) what an app is, exactly. I wonder what the response will be.

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      40 is ridiculous. I’m 49. Our generation essentially invented the internet, cell phones, etc. you may have been born to the darkness but we created it.

    • @WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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      Idk, but I think you’d have to go a lot higher have that. Like, your parents know what an app is. Maybe your grandparents don’t, but mine do. So I think it would basically have to be like people over 70 or something

      • @DokPsy@lemmy.world
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        So you’re saying, when Trump says “most people” he means "me " but has to make it sound like he’s not alone in any thinking ?

        • @pyre@lemmy.world
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          100% of the time he means himself but not for that reason.

          he does this because he hasn’t developed theory of mind. because he doesn’t care about other people enough to do that.

          • @WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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            Yes exactly. When he says “people,” e.g. “people are saying, everyone says, etc” or “you” or whatever, he means him. Additionally most accusations are admissions. People are eating cats? He’s probably eating cats. People are committing sex crimes? He’s committing sex crimes. People don’t know what an app is? He doesn’t know what an app is, etc.

    • @pyre@lemmy.world
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      a 40 year old is a kid in 2000. their formative years were spent on the Internet.

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      Lol, 40 years old elder here. Last year, my college mandated me to create a new course on how to use a computer because most of our new students can’t figure out how to install a plugin. The young generation is way less tech-savvy than they think they are, trust me on this.